Carbon Monoxide used for public health

Mad Dog_2

Today's New York Post…

EBEBRATT-Ed

But "Humane Long Island" says the rats will suffer a slow painful death. 🤣🤣

Mad Dog_2

Very easy to get the rat population under control....$25 bounty each carcass.....just like the phyton problem in the Everglades...ordinary people will solve "intractable" problems for $$$. Just get out of their way.

Aside of employing that approach, this is a solid idea....Mad Dog

Mad Dog_2

No pain or suffering....."you're getting VERY sleepy....." Mad Dog

pecmsg

The boys in Brooklyn know how to take care of rats

Mad Dog_2

That's right...How'beach too! (My formative years)...Mad Dog

mattmia2

maybe put the trash in rodentproof cans?

mattmia2

is this the reason i was the only person wearing shorts?

ratio

I wonder if they really meant CO₂, not CO. The article does say that the gas "doesn't pose a risk to humans or non-rats", which sounds a lot more like carbon dioxide than carbon monoxide.

ethicalpaul

https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1858519#Comment_1858519

This is finally a thing, but these NYC rats aren't going to be stopped that easily

https://www.nyc.gov/site/dsny/collection/containerization/residential-containerization.page

Mad Dog_2

No one ever said it would be easy....Mad Dog

pecmsg

https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1858517#Comment_1858517

great neighborhood as long as you didn’t pick on the wrong kid!

PeteA

They have tried to kill these critters with all sorts of stuff like this and other experiments so many times in the past. They created a Rat CZAR at one point, used dry Ice in 2016 (EPA shut this down), carbon monoxide has been used since 2018 or earlier (but it's an election year and Adams needs a headline or two), Dogs, Cats, recently mandated all types of new trash pails etc etc. but the rats like the roaches will survive and go on as always :)

Mad Dog_2

@pecmsg ...we were one of MAYBE 5 Irish Families on the New side of How'beach....many fistfights...especially on St Patricks Day..... We played Lynvets Pop Warner Football against eachother, Ozone-Howard LL Baseball, Saluggi, & kill the carrier in the asphalt school yard.

We had sleepovers, BBQs- and Sunday Macaronis together…We also had fistfights atleast once a week...with our friends!!! Great neighborhood to grow up in...very safe...NYPD was rarely called...we looked after eachother... Wiseguy or Law abiding...we were a tight neighborhood I miss those days....Mad Dog

pecmsg

and the next day everything was fine!

Mad Dog_2

Exactly…we laughed...Mad Dog

Bob Harper

They did not account for all those rotting carcasses. You can turn loose one rat dog and he'll kill 100 in 30 minutes and you'll harvest the corpses for fertilizer or hog feed. They could use CO2 as a simple asphyxiant displacing the O2. The rat will not displace as CO enters because they cannot detect it. If they detect it getting harder to breathe, they may be motivated to move to fresh air where the dogs are waiting. Just monitor the ambient O2 below the knees to ensure the dogs get sufficient oxygen. Once the space is clear, you can ventilate and re-occupy quicker because even if you huff a little carbon dioxide, your lungs will clear it right away. You don't have to worry about the half-life as you do with CO and CO2 does not disrupt O2 binding with hemoglobin the way CO does. As long as O2 is present, it will be transported to the cells. A little short term hypercapnea only makes you breathe a little faster and deeper.

mattmia2

very long way to say CO is a poison and CO2 is an asphyxiant

Bob Harper

Sorry you didn't know.

They are.