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Old Brooklyn NY church

boilerman06
boilerman06 Member Posts: 7
edited March 1 in Chimneys & Flues

old radiator inside of a chimney. This is the view looking up chimney from cleanout door.
maybe to help with drafting? Anybody have any input on this?
picture doesn’t do it justice it’s huge!

I got a picture of top of chimney. The actual chimney is up the center, it looks like you could walk around the top like an old watch tower.

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,668

    Sure that "chimney" isn't a hot-air duct to an upper floor?

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  • boilerman06
    boilerman06 Member Posts: 7

    100% exterior chimney. If you look close enough, there are also pipes going further into the chimney. I need a hazmat suit to go in there further and take a look is a crime scene of dead birds in there.

    mikeapolis
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,693
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 25,806

    This was a very common arrangement to get fresh air into a building and stale air out — in the days when we weren't concerned much about energy conservation. And it worked and worked well. No fans needed, no electricity, silent… easily controlled… what's not to like? Except that it wasn't all that efficient…

    I saw a number of these when I was inspecting schools in Vermont, some 50 years ago.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
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  • boilerman06
    boilerman06 Member Posts: 7
    edited March 1

    chimney still in use two duel fuel Weil mclain 688 2m btu boilers still using it!

    JOutterbridge
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,887

    Disconnected? Mad Dog

  • STONECREEKSERVICES
    STONECREEKSERVICES Member Posts: 9

    Early attempt at waste heat recovery/economizer?

    Intplm.
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,664

    Nothing is sealed where the piping comes through, and you're saying flue gases from 2 boilers are currently dumping into that space?

    Mad Dog_2
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,887
  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 963

    I always judge a building by its chimney :-) That’s clearly a top notch monumental edifice! [I’m told I have an Edifice Complex. I don’t deny it. ]

    Anyway, there is what appears to be a metal flue pipe going up? The piping seems to pass through a brick arch. Is that original? Those purpose built manifolds are nice and it looks like the loops go up and double back down. So it’s probably not heat recovery; water wouldn’t flow, so it’s a steam loop I reckon. Furthermore I would expect to to see a lot of residual soot if the arrangement was exposed to coal fires in the past.
    It looks more and more like a draft inducer. Is it possible that potable hot water was generated off a loop on a steam boiler year round that couldn’t keep such a large chimney like that drafting, necessitating draft assistance? It would have certainly kept boiler and coal areas ventilated year round.
    Is the lookout at the top purely ornamental or is it a concentric construction of some kind all the way down? I wish I was there to see it in person as it would make the puzzle easier to solve. Besides the fact that it’s just the kind of place I love to snoop around. The whole context would be fascinating to see, to reveal the history of its heating and ventilation however unconventional it may seem to modern eyes.
    Thanks for this interesting post!

    Terry T

    steam; proportioned minitube; trapless; jet pump return; vac vent. New Yorker CGS30C

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  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,458
    edited March 7

    it’s possible that the system vented into the chimney and that was used to ensure it condensed before it reached the chimney, assuming it was a 2-pipe steam system.

    mattmia2Long Beach Ed
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,887

    I'm very intrigued with this situation any updates? I'm almost willing to take a ride for S—& giggles...Mad Dog

    ttekushan_3
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,458

    Pick me up @Mad Dog_2 ? 😎

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  • techforlife
    techforlife Member Posts: 120

    This is gonna be REALLY interesting!

    ttekushan_3
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,887

    Waiting for an invite....Mad Dog

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,887

    C'mon....ROAD TRIP!! "No sleep till Brooklyn!!" Mad Dog

    Long Beach Ed
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,713

    I'll meet you there Dog. I'll bring a flashlight.

    Mad Dog_2