A 30 year water heater??
Visiting their website this feels a lot like another water heater that was out of Texas. The company seemed to have disappeared in the middle of the night.
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Here's the real 30 year water heater. Plastic tank, like all electric and HP models should be.
https://www.rheem.com/innovations/innovation_residential/marathon/
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We live in the world of scams. They are incessant. Since there is no consequence to the scammer, they continue to proliferate. Amazon is the haven for scams. The scammers have figured out how to get five star reviews by paying people to provide a good review.
From an economic perspective we are basically doomed. Doing it cheaper and doing it wrong is significantly more beneficial financially than doing it right. There are almost no consequences for doing it cheap and/or wrong.
Just look at the 500W heaters that have been selling perpetually. No consequences.
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Why does a water heater need to be WiFi connected?
This generation has gone gadget crazy.
Bob Boan
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My parents have a Richmond 30 gallon electric water heater still in service in their home from the original build in 1984, and a York 2 ton AC from the same date. Neither have ever been touched. Not a flush, not a new element, not an anode rod, nothing whatsoever. Meanwhile it seems every day I hear of somebody replacing a water heater that's less than 10 years old
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. Meanwhile it seems every day I hear of somebody replacing a water heater that's less than 10 years old
…………..and compressor/condensers that don't even make 10!!
I have a 2.5 ton outdoor R-22 unit from 1989 where the aluminum is somewhat deteriorated. I hesitate to replace it even though I have a used R-22 replacement for it!!
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I had a 22 year old Vaughn stone lined electric that I changed out at my condo. Was way oversized. Replaced it with a 50 gallon.
Looking at the inside of the Vaughn it probably would have lasted forever. The electric utilities used to have a rental program and a lot of utilities in my area used to rent them. My utility stopped the rental program and said "you own the water heater"
Disadvantage to them is the weight. The 80 gallon was 350-400 lb.
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their solar tanks lasted decades also. The finned copper coils inside were not my favorite however
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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I liked that comment, but must point out that it's not just one generation. It's most of them other than the very oldest. In my 70s, I'm a luddite compared to even younger boomers.
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I suppose even composite, plastic, fiberglass wound tanks can fail.
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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………..ahh,………yes………….did somebody say that another Burnham failed…………….??? What a surprise………………
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I imagine this us a relabeled tank?
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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Your imagination could be correct:
https://www.vaughncorp.com/residential/indirect-water-heaters/featherweight-thermoplastic-30-119-gallon/
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Burnham and amtrol both make plastic indirescts.
The life of conventional tanks has a whole lot to do with usage. A tank with one or two people that bathe once a week or less with good water quality can last decades. The original gas water heater in my parent's house was about 30 years old when it was replaced in the late 80's. The next one with 3 teenagers lasted about 10 years. Its replacement is still there.
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like all that stuff on cars from the 50's through 80's. i mean everything being off white now is a little too far in the other direction.
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Don't need anything special, I have my 22 year old resistance tank with plate HX. I can't see why it would not make it to 30, on its 3rd anode though. Do have pretty decent water though.
My cooktop has WIFI and an app. Why the heck is that needed?
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Selling data is big money. I doubt they put wifi on a cooktop for consumer convenience. 😉
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Speaking of anodes. Looks like this brand is going mainstream. At Amazon, racks at the big box stores?
I assume the sulphur smell they refer to is from the anode depleting? Not from sulphur well water smell.
Made in Canada. Soon to be the 51st State 😉
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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why would i be letting this connect to my network?
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Hasn't that manufacturer been around for a couple decades? I suppose it is an easier sell when a water heater is $700 vs when they were $150.
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We just replaced a 37 yr old hvac system that still worked. The hot water heater in the house is at least that old and works well. No wifi. This is from in laws house we inherited. Meanwhile, in our own home, we are on our third water heater and second hvac system in 35 years. Something changed between the eighties and nineties.
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I just recently put one on a BW that I installed about three years. It had a very strong sulfur smell from what the water treatment company said was colloidal iron in the water. It cleared it right up, so it does work.
Buderus has used them on some of their larger tanks for years.
Bob Boan
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I just got 26 years out of an inexpensive 50-gallon "American Water Heater". I'm sure it lasted that long because I have a sediment filter on the incoming water service, which helped keep the bottom of the tank clean. The failure point looked like a weld at the top of the tank, rather than the bottom rotting out like we see more often.
And I had a great helper:
All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
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Leave it to Burnham to figure out how to make a composite tank deteriorate in 3 years 😂
Edit: Sorry I see now others made this same joke.
I imagine this us a relabeled tank?
OK so we finally know the answer. Even the Burnham label makes stuff rot out!!
> why would i be letting this connect to my network?You know I would agree with you even though I'm not very afraid of wifi appliances. But my GE Cafe stove wouldn't let me enable "air fryer" (really just convection mode) until I connected it to wifi
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Hi, I found this: December of 2024 was the most recent news. Simple is better. I've gotten fifty years from standard glass-lined tanks. The wi-fi might be useful if you want to let the utility do some load shedding. 🤠
Yours, Larry
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some number crunching here.
I agree with @Larry Weingarten that manufactures data and actual conditions are not on the same page, necessarily. Only some time in actual installations gets more accurate data.
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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Canada will be the 51st state as of 12:01PM Monday the 20th.
Even the Burnham label makes stuff rot out!! LOL😊😊
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