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Should I replace this broken pressure gauge?

What should I order to replace?

See 3 photos below

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  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,352
    edited November 11

    Yes, its a code requirement.

    Useless for diagnostic purposes. For that you need to ADD a 0-3 psi gauge.

    Oh, you also need a water trap or pigtail before your new gauge.{s}

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
    Mad Dog_2
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,878

    Are you sure it's broken? Or just out of adjustment. It probably won't show the low pressures normally used anyway.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347

    Not sure.

    I just assumed since someone wrote "Broken" on it.

    I will watch the gauge when the heat runs.

    Steam pressure is generally 1-2 PSI ?

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,338

    Is there a direct replacement for that, or will a new gauge need a pigtail?

  • luketheplumber
    luketheplumber Member Posts: 157

    Alot of them I see are broken. I don't worry about them on steam boilers.

    Located in durham NC.

  • Waher
    Waher Member Posts: 287

    Replace it with a 0-30psi “internal siphon” steam gauge. “Internal siphon” on a steam gauge means the gauge has a built in pigtail inside the workings of the gauge so you can screw it directly into the boiler (with dope or Teflon tape)

  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,212

    Just write fixed on it. All will be okay

    ethicalpauldelcrossvMad Dog_2EdTheHeaterMan
  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347

    Jamie has a point. I wonder if the gauge works. I will watch gauge next time heat turns on and see if needle moves.

    What if I break it when removing and create a leak? The pipe leading to the gauge is warm.

    Also, how do I know what size thread the connector pipe is ?

    https://www.supplyhouse.com/sh/control/search/~SEARCH_STRING=steam%20gauge

  • PEvans
    PEvans Member Posts: 137

    @delcrossv is right, you need a low pressure gauge as well, to tell what is going on. Also these low-pressure gauges don't like off-scale pressures, and at least the ones I have found are expensive.

  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347

    Is it possible to explain what parts I'd need to add a 0-3 psi gauge?

    Fork from the line going to square dial in my pics above?

  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347

    I have a very non-standard boiler so I assume I can't look up a video of how to add a 0-3 gauge

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,352
    edited November 17

    Pigtail to tee to a couple of nipples to ells to a couple of nipples to the units (add couplings as necessary).

    C'mon look and see how it should go together. Visualize. Draw a picture.

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347
    edited November 17

    OK, I get what you mean by a fork into 2 pipes facing frontwards.

    Pigtail would replace square gauge in front? Extending that long straight pipe a half a foot even furthur would be getting in the way of the door closing. And would look weird as hell. And risk getting broken off?

    Size is 1/4" N.P.T. ?

    I can't find a 0-3 gauge

    https://www.supplyhouse.com/Weil-McLain-510-218-045-Pressure-Gauge

  • PEvans
    PEvans Member Posts: 137
    edited November 17

    The ways to do it are unlimited. Mine is a T off the main relief. My 0-3 psi gauge is a Wika purchased from wika.com.

    I think you need to retain a 0-30 psi gauge. I have a square 0-30 psi gauge on the front of the boiler that I did not mess with.

    (Yes, I know that is the wrong Pressuretrol. Not sure where it came from but It is replaced with a Vaporstat.)

    Mad Dog_2delcrossv
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,519

    If they are too hard to get out, I just add new ones elsewhere. Mad Dog

  • PEvans
    PEvans Member Posts: 137

    Some of you have these beautiful headers installed in a tap on the front of the boiler with low-pressure gauge, Vaporstat, and safety Pressuretrol all where you can see them, individual pigtails for each, a valve protecting the 0-3 psi gauge, and couplings everywhere for easy maintenance. That is probably the "right" way if there is one.

  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,686

    Hello CoachBoilermaker,

    Maybe that long copper pipe from the boiler to the gauge is plugged up and the gauge is actually fine.

    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System
  • CoachBoilermaker
    CoachBoilermaker Member Posts: 347

    If I take off the square gauge, will water shoot out of the pipe?

    How do I safely remove gauge to inspect a clog in the straight pipe?

  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,686

    " If I take off the square gauge, will water shoot out of the pipe? " If the pipe is above the water line probably not.

    " How do I safely remove gauge to inspect a clog in the straight pipe? " Wait for the boiler to cool down, where eye / face protection, use the correct tools.

    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System