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Another Moline System

Ironman
Ironman Member Posts: 7,516
in THE MAIN WALL
Just replaced the boiler on this Moline system.
The cellar was a mess covered in plastic.

The old:


The new header:



The new boiler:


The old air trap and vacuum valve were bad. We also replaced about 50’ of wet return.

Bob Boan
You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    Awesome as always Bob.

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

    Ironman
  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 896
    Nice job. System will likely perform better than it had in a long time.
    Ironmanmattmia2
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,595
    Very nice. That cellar looks like a nightmare to work in...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    GGrossIronmanreggi
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,388
    That looks so good. I never run into a boiler with a drop header in my area, I think I might be the only tech in the county who knows what it is. I bet the difference in performance is going to be dramatically improved from the old mess.
    Ironman
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,516
    edited December 2023
    Jamie Hall said:
    Very nice. That cellar looks like a nightmare to work in...

    It was. Other than the small pit the boiler was in, everything was uneven dirt covered with 4mil poly which was slippery. No functional lights and head knocker’s everywhere.

    The object wrapped in plastic to the right is the old coal boiler which was just moved to the side by the previous installer.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,777
    Do they call it a Michigan basement in other states too?
    reggi
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,516
    mattmia2 said:
    Do they call it a Michigan basement in other states too?
    IDK. To me it’s not even a basement, just a dirt floor cellar.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,777
    In Michigan real estate they call an area that is more or less a crawl space with a bit more head room a "Michigan basement". It isn't really habitable space and usually has a mishmash of floor elevations and usually dirt floor.
    GGross
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,297
    The old boiler was a disaster.
    mattmia2
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,516
    edited December 2023
    Some of these old houses down here date back to pre-civil war times and have a fire place in the cellar which was the servant quarters.

    This one had a flue opening in the other side of the cellar. Not sure what that was for.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,777
    EBEBRATT-Ed said:

    The old boiler was a disaster.

    I'm sure you could match the header up to the boiler wrapped in plastic.
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,338
    Nice job Bob. 
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
    Ironman
  • jumper
    jumper Member Posts: 2,384
    mattmia2 said:

    In Michigan real estate they call an area that is more or less a crawl space with a bit more head room a "Michigan basement". It isn't really habitable space and usually has a mishmash of floor elevations and usually dirt floor.

    Cities condemned homes without heating systems. Houses were rehabilitated by digging out enough space to instal heater. But Moline was cadillac grade so one would expect a nice basement?
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,516
    jumper said:
    In Michigan real estate they call an area that is more or less a crawl space with a bit more head room a "Michigan basement". It isn't really habitable space and usually has a mishmash of floor elevations and usually dirt floor.
    Cities condemned homes without heating systems. Houses were rehabilitated by digging out enough space to instal heater. But Moline was cadillac grade so one would expect a nice basement?
    The house pre-dates the system by many years.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    reggi

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