Best single pipe steam unit for tiny space?
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Can you post a picture of the existing radiator?All Steamed Up, Inc.
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This is the radiator...
And this is the bathroom before demo...we hope to eliminate the bump out in the corner by replacing the cast iron stack with PVC and push the toilet to be flush against the back wall (it was about 4" away from the wall before demo).
We found that we have 3 AC ducts in the left wall so that may limit our options since we don't want to re-route them.0 -
Steamview Radiators make a nice wall-mounted steam Radiator. Of course, you'll be installing new insulation . You'll be able to put a much smaller Radiator in if you do. Mad Dog 🐕0
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That is a good point! Would Runtal/Steamview be able to tell me the BTU/radiator size needed for my room?0
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You need to do a heat loss calculation but you also need to balance it with the rest of the system at least roughly. If all the other emitters are significantly oversized and you size this to just the loss of the room the boiler will shut off because of the other spaces heating before this space heats. You can balance some with vents but it is a lot easier if it is basically balanced to begin with.0
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So if we replace, would it be recommended to replace with a unit with roughly the same BTUs as the existing radiator in order to keep the system balanced (even if oversized for the space)? We have already removed two radiators from the original system (one from main bedroom where we had two radiators, since it was too hot) and one from a sun room that we renovated (and where we unfortunately installed hot water baseboard.). I am not sure if that makes a difference in the balance of the system!
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Gerry Gils solution with the vertical pipe radiator would be ideal for this. It's pictured somewhere on this site.
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I think this is it...EBEBRATT-Ed said:Gerry Gils solution with the vertical pipe radiator would be ideal for this. It's pictured somewhere on this site.
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/151994/new-steam-mini-tube-installation-in-ohio/p1
It would definitely save us space but I'm not sure who could make this for me!0 -
We are leaning towards buying a new but slimmer 2 column cast iron radiator that will give us a little more room next to the toilet. How do I determine the BTUs of existing radiator so I can choose an appropriately size replacement? Thank you again!
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As Mattmia..said above...do a Simple heatloss for the room and then size your radiator accordingly...otherwise you're just guessing...Mad Dog 🐕0
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With 3 interior walls and 1 exterior, that room doesn’t need much at all.
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The vent on that radiator is in the wrong place, so it's not heating to its full capacity. If it was heating the room properly, you could use a slightly smaller rad and put the vent in the proper location, with no loss of performance.All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
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what did you end up going with? I’m also doing a bathroom renovation and due to the new toilet location, the existing 1-pipe radiator will no longer work.
ideally, I need something with a 16”x16” footprint. The room is approximately 6’x7’ with one exterior wall0 -
When I reno'd my tiny bathroom (6'x9') to the studs, I found that because I was putting in modern foam and fiberglass insulation and sealing any air cracks on the single exterior wall, that I just didn't need the radiator any more—the parasitic heat from the rest of the upstairs kept it nice. It makes sense because when the house was built, it was drafty as hell with zero insulation.
I know it's a gamble, but a little space heater in the winter if needed isn't so bad (I don't even have that)
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See my response in your other thread - the comment by ethicalpaul about insulation is important.
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A lot of people like their bathrooms on the warmer side…
No idea where you are at but can often find an antique wall mount rad something like in the attached within driving distance of your area (Try Facebook Marketplace and Ebay). This would be about 7sqft of edr which may suffice for your renovated bathroom.
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