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Rumors on peerless

clammy
clammy Member Posts: 3,089
I did a quick steam replacement yesterday w a contractor I ve worked w for a long time and he has heard that the peerless 63 04 is done and peerless will not be producing any more any time soon basically finished done . The 63 04 L will still be available for how long who knows ,Now this is what I ve heard from a extremely reliable source who basically has been the only one on the east coast that was able to get any peerless steamers through the pandemic, just ask dan foley . All I have to say is wow if that the case what are we suppose to do just install the throw away 10 - 15 year max boilers like crowns and the like of the bottom line boilers . I would guess if ya gonna push for all that green crap might as well bull dozer all the old home , rewrite a little history and put in low income housing since no one has any money and really do-not want to work . So if the rent you pay is equal to what you make and if you make nothing then that’s your rent ,I know we have one in my town and everybody in the place is unemployed or on disability and working cash on the side . As much as they dream of a utiopta future there’s gonna be a lot more ticks on the deer . I believe noritz has purchased peerless so there one way to get your crappy product sold . It’s great that at some point every old home will be force to switch to alternative heating systems over steam or move out ,sell and let the next guy worry . Sorry to sound political but I dont think it’s the supposedly educated elite who are making these decision it,s those w grander schemes enriching them self and there’s while the rest just wallow in misery .
We will all be lucky when all at once we can sit in the cold w no light due to grid which has failed just one step closer to the cave ,a fire and charcoal drawing on the walls . Will any manufacture jump in highly doubtful .
No coffee required for this rant
Peace and good luck clammy
R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
NJ Master HVAC Lic.
Mahwah, NJ
Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
BobCMad Dog_2

Comments

  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,849
    Bummer. I guess I'd better think about ordering one, even though my 40 year old G-561-W-S is still going strong. The 63-04L is probably the right model to replace it with, but it's very easy and cheap to upsize a 63-04L to a 63-04 by adding a burner. These are the parts you need:

    Part # 50302 Burner Tray Rear Support – 63-04
    Part # 50266 Gas Manifold – 63-04
    Part # 50283 Flue Collector – 63-04
    Part # 50192 Burner – 63-04

    It was actually cheaper to buy the "L" and do the conversion than to buy the 04 last time I checked.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,433

    Here's the truth directly from Peerless this morning:
    They are producing the 63-04 and will continue to do so. It will not be discontinued.

    So..............

    No Apocalypse?

    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,487
    @clammy, I hope you share Erin's post with your friend.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,258
    ChrisJ said:

    Here's the truth directly from Peerless this morning:
    They are producing the 63-04 and will continue to do so. It will not be discontinued.

    So..............

    No Apocalypse?

    Nope.

    My two cents: Our industry is still being impacted by supply chain issues. All of the manufacturers that I speak with are working hard for their customers during these challenging times.
    President
    HeatingHelp.com
    ChrisJ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,712
    I think we're all still spooked by Slant/Fin's sudden closure.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    IronmanMad Dog_2
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,089
    I’m just reporting what I ve heard you all have better connection then I . I’m just in the trench hearing what I hear from the few I know ,but I know things are thin just ain’t got no comment on current state of the humans condition .peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
    Mad Dog_2
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,470
    I don't put a lot of creedence in what the sales arm of a manufacturer says, it's not their job to be truthful - just do whatever it takes to promote the stuff. I've seen to many instances of this with rosy future talk out of one end while moving trucks were at the other end.
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,487
    Not in this case, @BobC. I give you my word on that. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,692
    I know all the US Boiler Manufacturers are struggling to retool their factories with the new standards...not a small task..they are all scrambling like Fran Tarkenton! Mad Dog
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,433
    Mad Dog_2 said:
    I know all the US Boiler Manufacturers are struggling to retool their factories with the new standards...not a small task..they are all scrambling like Fran Tarkenton! Mad Dog



    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,849

    Here's the truth directly from Peerless this morning:
    They are producing the 63-04 and will continue to do so. It will not be discontinued.

    That's a relief. I'm pretty far from ready to buy a new boiler, but I can't imagine using anything but a Peerless 63-04 or 04L—except maybe a SteamMax 150, but I have yet to see one of those in stock anywhere, and the prices I've seen are way more than the Peerless. I'm starting to wonder if their existence was ever more than a rumor. :/
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24