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I recently had a leak behind one of my walls and the contractor replaced the faulty pex clamps with newer ones and brand new pex. The picture below is what he did in my bathroom. While it may be correct and to code (I hope), I don't understand how a professional could think this looks good? Couldn't he have used a brass nipple or something else so I don't have to see the blue pex past the escutcheon plate? Unfortunately I was not home for the repair and would have mentioned it to him if I was.
What are your thoughts?
I recently had a leak behind one of my walls and the contractor replaced the faulty pex clamps with newer ones and brand new pex. The picture below is what he did in my bathroom. While it may be correct and to code (I hope), I don't understand how a professional could think this looks good? Couldn't he have used a brass nipple or something else so I don't have to see the blue pex past the escutcheon plate? Unfortunately I was not home for the repair and would have mentioned it to him if I was.
What are your thoughts?
Long Island, NY
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it’s fine. The stop could have been moved right to the escution, no exposed pex, an easy fix.
Supposed to be plastic escutcheon on Pex, not metal.Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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this wraps around the pipe. No plumber requiredEdward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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I'm not a fan of that plastic nut on the supply tube. I've seen that nut fracture a dozen times or more just in my small service world.
Water logged water tanks, high water pressure ( especially at night in public water supply systems ), or other unforseen circumstances can contribute to water hammer when the ballcock shuts off.
We use braided supply connectors with a brass top nut, and we use a brass top nut with chrome plated supply tubes.......0 -
Six years ago we had the entire house repiped with Uponor PEX. All the shutoffs, toilets and sinks, look that way, hot (red showing) and cold. Last year our next door neighbor had the same thing done, and it's still the same.
My only caution is to hold the shutoff with one's left hand while turning the handle with one's right hand. A small precaution to ensure not twisting the shutoff right off the PEX, since our risers are flexible, not rigid. Just in case.0 -
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I agree with Mattmia - we use Uponor pex and their pex x 3/8" 90° female adapters for most fixture valve stub outs. At trim time, we install 3/8" brass or CP nipples as needed with a CP bell escutcheon & 3/8 ips angle stop.
We did it the same way in the 70's & 80's; the female adapters in the wall cavity were copper.
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Uponor makes chrome sleeves and covers to cover the PEX.Sal Santamaura said:Six years ago we had the entire house repiped with Uponor PEX. All the shutoffs, toilets and sinks, look like that way, hot (red showing) and cold. Last year our next door neighbor had the same thing done, and it's still the same.
My only caution is to hold the shutoff with one's left hand while turning the handle with one's right hand. A small precaution to ensure not twisting the shutoff right off the PEX, since our risers are flexible, not rigid. Just in case.
Uponor also sells copper stubouts as well. Tia is the route I went in my own house so all of the stops are supported.
My parents house is done all in Uponor pex as well from 2006 and all of the toilets have chrome connections.
Yes having the PEX stick out is a way to do it but I wouldn't really say it's great. I'd at least want a chrome sleeve and cover.
The good news is it's just cosmetic so it really doesn't matter.
Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment0 -
I wonder if op had the wall open?
More time, more money, but it looks better.
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SlamDunk said:
More time, more money, but it looks better.
I wonder if op had the wall open?
Regardless, there's more spots to leak there.Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment0 -
More time, more money, but it looks better.0
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DJD775 said:Threaded connections in walls are pretty common in shower heads. Your method has one less failure point in the wall but if properly installed it shouldn't be an issue.
The above example only has one less failure point and that's not much unless it's the one that leaks. If you run the PEX straight out into the stop there's now no joints in the wall there.
I could have worded my last response better.
There's a lot of worse things to have in a wall than a threaded joint.
Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment0 -
In all fairness my shower head example is not exactly equivalent as there typically not as much pressure in that joint unless you have a shutoff valve on the shower head.0
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DJD775 said:In all fairness my shower head example is not exactly equivalent as there typically not as much pressure in that joint unless you have a shutoff valve on the shower head.
But I think it's still a valid point.Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment0 -
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