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Watts 009-MZ RP back flow preventer....can it be installed vertically?

JUGHNE
JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,680
Re-piping plumbing around new boilers, existing 009-mz was installed horizontally,
Things would be simpler if I could re-install this in the vertical position....is that permitted for this model?

If not do you know why? One thing I can think of is if it discharges, the water would go straight down...if vertical it would shoot against the boiler room brick wall near the floor drain.

Comments

  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 3,089
    edited August 3
    I found an elbow whose purpose seems to be to allow it: https://www.consolidatedsupply.com/Product/139467

    I saw a comment from a customer service rep that the 3/4" model must be horizontal.
    1 pipe Peerless 63-03L in Cedar Grove, NJ, coal > oil > NG
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,680
    I asked 3 different people from the utility and got yes, no and maybe...not sure.

    Why would they sell the drain elbow approved for the 009 series if it could not be vertical?

    Paul, thanks for your input.
    ethicalpaul
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 14,868
    Vertical if flow is downward is what I’ve been told on double checks with vents. The tech or installation manual may say?
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    JUGHNE
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 3,089
    I love looking through manuals for hidden information, and I couldn't find anything about orientation no matter how hard I looked. A supplyhouse customer service rep linked to a pdf that supposedly mentioned it, but the link was broken.
    1 pipe Peerless 63-03L in Cedar Grove, NJ, coal > oil > NG
    JUGHNE
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,680
    The I&O manuals do NOT state "Horizontal Installation Only!"
    Pictures are of horizontal but no direction given for orientation.
    ethicalpaul
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 16,593
    It wouldn't bother me to see it either way... just so long as if it did drain, it didn't drain on something valuable...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    JUGHNE
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,680
    edited August 3
    I feel if one asked the Watts dept. about the direction there would not be a definitive answer.

    If they would approve vertical and the device shot water out, it could do more damage than if the water went straight down to the floor.

    ....."Your device sprayed water on my Monet Painting".... :'(

    I am going to go for the vertical installation, the drain port is pointing towards a brick basement wall near the floor drain.

    When I get the pictures up you can see why the vertical was preferred.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 9,678
    Any reason the drain can't be piped down to the floor??
    ethicalpaulrick in Alaska
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,331
    The answer is quite simple.

    Yes.

    Have installed more horizontally, but vertical installation is also permitted and does not affect performance.

    There is a type of elbow that can be installed with a vertical orientation as needed, but I have seen many installed with and without the ell. The ell installed looks better/more professional.

    @JUGHNE Install it with confidence as you see fit.
    JUGHNE
  • Mike_Breault
    Mike_Breault Member Posts: 26
    Call Watts tech support. Some models can be under some conditions, best to check with the Manufacturer

    Watts N. Andover: 1-978-689-6066