I hate one hole kitchen faucets
in very few instances i have seen some of those independent knobs have a large nut to hold them down but as to the spouts or single hole units, they have these ridiculous plated metal 'c's or 'u's that don't work well to start with, are an incredible PIA to install and then proceed to rust into nothingness. now maybe there is some really high end thinker that makes these stupid plates out of stainless, but that just means their stupidity sticks around longer.
Are there any manufacturers you've seen that practice the old style connection, 1/2 parallel pipe on the two wing holes of the three hole installation even if that is in service of a single control/spout arrangement.
I could also conceive of a single hole approach that utilize more carefully brazed or solder connections that could allow for a single standard thread around the outside so that a nut could support the faucet with 360 degrees of bearing around the hole (which I get sticking to a standard but since standards aren't cool could always go up a parallel pipe size to afford more room to work since many of these counters are getting custom drilled anyway).
Not your typical question for heatinghelp i admit, but i know of no other confab with the extent of knowledge and focus across the industry so i start here.
thanks,
brian
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I find the Moen one pretty straightforward.
They give you the wrench to snug them up.
The flex supplies are pretty simple to connect.
I have had to simply cut out some faucets...0 -
My favorite by far is T&S brass.
But I couldn't sell the wife on one yet.Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Got to admit I've not yet had trouble with either Kohler or Moen single hole faucets as to mounting them. Maybe I've been lucky?Br. Jamie, osb
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well thats two for moen. i'll take a look. after servicing their single cartridges in a multiunit for years i'm kind of lackluster on the brand. albeit they had the original all in one stem with no other parts. but it wasn't always the easiest to get out.
as to decent connections on the flex lines, i've seen a few that work but i just don't like that spaghetti. i like the 8" spread no burst to each side. plastic nut above the no burst on each side retaining the faucet.
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I have not had a problem with quality versions of these like kohler or american standard. If the plate is rusting you have leaks somewhere you need to address.0
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My friend had a moen from around 2008 that just started leaking out of the valve body somewhere and that seemed to be a common problem with that design. Maybe they fixed the issue. My opinion of Moen and Delta is that they have jacked their prices up for "premium" finishes and gadgets so much that you might as well spend 20% more for a kohler or american standard.1
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I wouldn't expect any exposed part of a kitchen or bathroom faucet to rust, leaks or not.mattmia2 said:I have not had a problem with quality versions of these like kohler or american standard. If the plate is rusting you have leaks somewhere you need to address.
They're intended to get wet, constantly. It's a sink................. Yanno?
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Not the plate underneath that holds it to the sink. if that is getting wet your faucet isn't sealed to the sink, the valve is leaking, the sink isn't sealed to the counter, the counter isn't sealed, or some accessory isn't sealed to the sink.ChrisJ said:
I wouldn't expect any exposed part of a kitchen or bathroom faucet to rust, leaks or not.mattmia2 said:I have not had a problem with quality versions of these like kohler or american standard. If the plate is rusting you have leaks somewhere you need to address.
They're intended to get wet, constantly. It's a sink................. Yanno?1 -
That's true, sorry I misunderstood.mattmia2 said:
Not the plate underneath that holds it to the sink. if that is getting wet your faucet isn't sealed to the sink, the valve is leaking, the sink isn't sealed to the counter, the counter isn't sealed, or some accessory isn't sealed to the sink.ChrisJ said:
I wouldn't expect any exposed part of a kitchen or bathroom faucet to rust, leaks or not.mattmia2 said:I have not had a problem with quality versions of these like kohler or american standard. If the plate is rusting you have leaks somewhere you need to address.
They're intended to get wet, constantly. It's a sink................. Yanno?Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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My favorite is also T&S Brass and Bronze Works. Hope that you can convince any and all about this company. They are truly great.ChrisJ said:My favorite by far is T&S brass.
But I couldn't sell the wife on one yet.
Others I have found that are ok are Kohler, Delta,(some faucets) and Chicago Brass. There's another company called "Rohl" that is excellent but BIG $$$!
Moen has a great warranty but you will have to use it.
Look into T&S Brass. They are worth a look.0
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