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Best value for propane condensing boiler

Nickkendall
Nickkendall Member Posts: 2
edited February 21 in THE MAIN WALL
I am needing to find a good boiler for my house and garage and looking for some opinions on something reliable
I see they go from $-$
I just want something that will hopefully give me some trouble free years
Needs to be 90+ efficient
I am currently interested in the Westinghouse high efficiency

Comments

  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,422
    The most important part of the equation is the installer, so follow his recommendations for a boiler with good distribution local to you. He will also do a heat loss Survey of your house, to make sure the boiler is sized right. There is a difference between a water heater, and a heating boiler.
    What do you have now?—NBC
    kcoppIronman
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 15,350
    As @nicholas bonham-carter says, the installer is the key to the picture -- not the name plate on the boiler. Further, without a heat loss calculation, you can't do the job at all. You'd be guessing.

    The best boiler is any one of the good makes, properly installed, sized to the heat loss, and properly adjusted and calibrated. Then you will have something. Otherwise -- might as well throw darts at a catalogue.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
    NickkendallIronman
  • Nickkendall
    Nickkendall Member Posts: 2
    Well I’m installing it myself in place of my electric that I used for just my house since now I’m going to heat my new garage and house I see they have turndown ratios which is what I will be running as my heat loss is around 80,000 between house and garage
    Thinking about trying a Westinghouse high efficiency but I have just started looking. Thanks
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 1,129
    First things first, Westinghouse doesn't make a boiler. They put their sticker on an HTP boiler. The HTP/Westinghouse is a decent enough boiler for the price, but their customer service is horrendous because of all the homeowners who buy them online or in Menards and try to self install without reading the manual or having the proper equipment for setting up the gas and combustion. In a broad spectrum, I would figure out what your local installers use and take your pick of that litter so they can service it in 2 years when it's perpetually locked out on flame failure.
    Nickkendall
  • Nickkendall
    Nickkendall Member Posts: 2
    GroundUp said:

    First things first, Westinghouse doesn't make a boiler. They put their sticker on an HTP boiler. The HTP/Westinghouse is a decent enough boiler for the price, but their customer service is horrendous because of all the homeowners who buy them online or in Menards and try to self install without reading the manual or having the proper equipment for setting up the gas and combustion. In a broad spectrum, I would figure out what your local installers use and take your pick of that litter so they can service it in 2 years when it's perpetually locked out on flame failure.

    Why will I have flame failure? Will propane not be as reliable as the electric boiler setup I used the past 6 years flawlessly Only switching since I built a garage now
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,151
    IMO, it could be as reliable if all the little details are taken care of for the LP install.
    MikeG
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 15,350

    GroundUp said:

    First things first, Westinghouse doesn't make a boiler. They put their sticker on an HTP boiler. The HTP/Westinghouse is a decent enough boiler for the price, but their customer service is horrendous because of all the homeowners who buy them online or in Menards and try to self install without reading the manual or having the proper equipment for setting up the gas and combustion. In a broad spectrum, I would figure out what your local installers use and take your pick of that litter so they can service it in 2 years when it's perpetually locked out on flame failure.

    Why will I have flame failure? Will propane not be as reliable as the electric boiler setup I used the past 6 years flawlessly Only switching since I built a garage now
    Provided you give an LP boiler a tiny bit o maintenance, the boiler itself is just as reliable as the electric boiler is. However... the LP boiler can be run off a small generator, but the electric one can't. Which would you rather have the next time the grid goes down in your area?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,314

    GroundUp said:

    First things first, Westinghouse doesn't make a boiler. They put their sticker on an HTP boiler. The HTP/Westinghouse is a decent enough boiler for the price, but their customer service is horrendous because of all the homeowners who buy them online or in Menards and try to self install without reading the manual or having the proper equipment for setting up the gas and combustion. In a broad spectrum, I would figure out what your local installers use and take your pick of that litter so they can service it in 2 years when it's perpetually locked out on flame failure.

    Why will I have flame failure? Will propane not be as reliable as the electric boiler setup I used the past 6 years flawlessly Only switching since I built a garage now
    A gas mod/con requires a lot more than just connecting pipes to it. A digital combustion analyzer, digital manometer and the proper knowledge and training of how to use them is required. Otherwise, ignition and component failure happens in about two years. Or CO poisoning in much less time.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    GroundUpDZoro
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 1,129
    What he said ^^^^. There is a reason that proper installations cost as much as they do.
    MikeG
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 1,884
    edited February 24
    Well I’m installing it myself in place of my electric that I used for just my house since now I’m going to heat my new garage and house I see they have turndown ratios which is what I will be running as my heat loss is around 80,000 between house and garage Thinking about trying a Westinghouse high efficiency but I have just started looking. Thanks
    And what experiences do you have installing boilers?

    So much for proper sizing. 

    best to check the warranty when installed by an unlicensed contractor. 
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,252
    May I ask how you came to the 80,000 btu/hr number? 

    What type of emitters do you have? 

    Local support is key with a boiler installation. 
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
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