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Imagine That

New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
in Strictly Steam
They installed the new boiler and suddenly a condensate tank was required to return the condensate.

I wonder why....
New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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STEVEusaPAmattmia2HVACNUT

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  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,248
    Nice blocks.....cheaper than extending risers! :o
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,251
    Maybe they didn't want the flood water to fill the boiler!!!
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,230
    My knees say thankyou for raising it up that high.
    JUGHNEBobC
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    You’d think the pit would have caused them to contemplate a bit...
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    mattmia2
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    I notice the p'trols aren't protected from steam. Wonder which one will fail first.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,230
    Hap_Hazzard said:

    I notice the p'trols aren't protected from steam. Wonder which one will fail first.

    People often say that, but...

    How can steam get to them?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    New boiler and kept the ancient burner?

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  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    ChrisJ said:

    Hap_Hazzard said:

    I notice the p'trols aren't protected from steam. Wonder which one will fail first.

    People often say that, but...

    How can steam get to them?
    Convection.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,230
    > @Hap_Hazzard said:
    > (Quote)
    > Convection.

    Steam doesn't fill voids via convection.

    I'm betting the Ptrols on the ends will stay cold. The one in the center not sure about, it's kind of close.

    My own boiler has two sets of controls, the ones I actually use and care about do not have a pigtail or trap of any kind. Just 18" of vertical pipe with air trapped in it. It gets hot maybe a few inches up and that's it. Most of the 1/2" black iron pipe stays room temp
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,702
    i guess that is one way to raise the water line...
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    ChrisJ said:


    Steam doesn't fill voids via convection.

    Really? I seem to recall a few weeks ago people were trying to convince me that my dry return was filling with steam even though it's full of air and pitched downwards, so, apparently, steam can overcome gravity AND an air-filled void to travel some 20 or 30 feet downhill back to the boiler, but it can't rise a few inches to reach the pressuretrol? Fascinating.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    edited March 2020
    > @STEVEusaPA said:
    > New boiler and kept the ancient burner?

    I meant back in the day when it was initially installed. It’s not new any longer.

    I am sure the condensate tank wasn’t in the bid.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    STEVEusaPA
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,230
    Hap_Hazzard said:

    ChrisJ said:


    Steam doesn't fill voids via convection.

    Really? I seem to recall a few weeks ago people were trying to convince me that my dry return was filling with steam even though it's full of air and pitched downwards, so, apparently, steam can overcome gravity AND an air-filled void to travel some 20 or 30 feet downhill back to the boiler, but it can't rise a few inches to reach the pressuretrol? Fascinating.
    Was I one of those people?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,251
    Wonder if they buried the old boiler under that??
    ethicalpaul
  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 971
    Was the old boiler an old coal unit with a very large steam chest with a very large water content that steamed much slower than the newer boiler?
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,247
    I also like that jacked up 67.... and no blow down for the lower piping to keep it clear.
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