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A heater for children's room

caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
Hi, we've just moved in a new house, the central heating is alredy off, and it's a bit cold inside.
I wonder is a radiant heater will be efficient and safe for my daughters, 4 and 7 years old. Or spuld I buy an oil one as it's efficient and I think, more energy efficient.

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  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Member Posts: 3,094
    edited March 20
    Oil or solely electric, make sure the electrical circuit its plugged into can handle the amps/watts of the heater.
    DO NOT OVERLOAD THE CIRCUIT. No TV, cable box, Alexa, Nintendo, X Box, chargers, lava lamp, H.A.M. radio, what have you in the same circuit.

    And of course a safety lesson for the girls. Maybe pick up a fire extinguisher while your out if you don't already have one. I'm not trying to scare you but (avoidable) accidents happen.

    Can we help with the central heat?
  • pecmsgpecmsg Member Posts: 1,258
    All plug in heaters have the same efficiency!

    Why is the heat "Already" off
    Solid_Fuel_ManZman
  • GroundUpGroundUp Member Posts: 902
    Turn the heat back on
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Member Posts: 3,094
    edited March 20
    Rereading, I think by "house", it's meant to be apartment?
    And by "central", it's meant to mean the whole building?
    Possibly?
    Maybe?
  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 6,628
    If you are not certain of the wiring situation, then it is best to run the heater on the low output setting. Most have a high/low selection plus the actual adjustable thermostat.
    The high setting of 1500 watts usually will warm up the wiring, both the cord and house wiring. The lower setting of maybe 750 watts keeps wires cooler and usually is enough for this season.
  • caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
    HVACNUT said:

    Rereading, I think by "house", it's meant to be apartment?

    And by "central", it's meant to mean the whole building?

    Possibly?

    Maybe?

    Right you are. I call any place we live permanently a 'house', just a habit
  • caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
    I'm not a native speaker, but that's, of course, not a good excuse, as live in states for a long time already
  • PRRPRR Member Posts: 35
    > or spuld I buy an oil one as it's efficient and I think, more energy efficient.

    I assume you do not mean an oil burner in the child's room.

    An oil-filled electric heater is not more efficient. It does spread the heat from a red-hot winding to large warm fins. It does hold heat for a while after turn-off, about the same as it takes time for heat to come out from cold start.

    I like the oil-fill around children for the specific reason it probably will not set cloth on fire. While modern fan-heaters have tip-over and gross overheat shut-downs, I've seen too many dorm-fires from clothing on lamps and heaters. (I'm less worried about skin-burns because the pain is usually quickly obvious, and the lesson is remembered.)

    You can have the X-box on the same outlet or circuit as a 1500W heater. Any one or two things that are hardly-warm. Cloc-radio. Cellphone charger.

    You absolutely want to run it 10 and 20 and 30 minutes on full heat while constantly checking the cord, plug, and wall outlet for heat. Ideally the heat is imperceptible. I have proven several times that when I feel "a little heat", a month later it runs HOT and soon burns or falls-apart.

    There's little point in a room-heater if the children leave the door open. Then it is whole-house heat. Which can be very expensive. Heat rises to the children's ceiling, fills the top of the room, spills into the house, drifts to the far end, cools, drifts along the floor back to the children's room, but now cool.
  • caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
    PRR said:

    > or spuld I buy an oil one as it's efficient and I think, more energy efficient.

    I assume you do not mean an oil burner in the child's room.

    An oil-filled electric heater is not more efficient. It does spread the heat from a red-hot winding to large warm fins. It does hold heat for a while after turn-off, about the same as it takes time for heat to come out from cold start.

    I like the oil-fill around children for the specific reason it probably will not set cloth on fire. While modern fan-heaters have tip-over and gross overheat shut-downs, I've seen too many dorm-fires from clothing on lamps and heaters. (I'm less worried about skin-burns because the pain is usually quickly obvious, and the lesson is remembered.)

    You can have the X-box on the same outlet or circuit as a 1500W heater. Any one or two things that are hardly-warm. Cloc-radio. Cellphone charger.

    You absolutely want to run it 10 and 20 and 30 minutes on full heat while constantly checking the cord, plug, and wall outlet for heat. Ideally the heat is imperceptible. I have proven several times that when I feel "a little heat", a month later it runs HOT and soon burns or falls-apart.

    There's little point in a room-heater if the children leave the door open. Then it is whole-house heat. Which can be very expensive. Heat rises to the children's ceiling, fills the top of the room, spills into the house, drifts to the far end, cools, drifts along the floor back to the children's room, but now cool.

    Thanks for your thoughts, but I intend to leave it on at night, so oil-filled electric heater seems more safe than fan, and it's noiseless
  • caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
    Update: I did small research, read a lot, found this page
    They suggest many fan heaters
    But I'm in two minds between DeLohni oil-filled and super-modern Dyson
  • caywltzcaywltz Member Posts: 10
    Dyson is compatible with Alexa, that's seems useful
    Reviews are also mostly positive
  • ratioratio Member Posts: 2,280
    Keep in mind that you get no more heat out of a 1200 watt electric heater that cost $500 than you would from a 1200 watt electric heater that cost $12.
    DZoroSolid_Fuel_Man
  • hot_rodhot_rod Member Posts: 12,954
    I had a small fan type in my truck camper RV, noisy and blows dust all over. I switched to that oil filled model this year, completely quiet, safe, wide adjustment range. It did take more space in the camper, but that should not be an issue in a bedroom.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    The magic is in hydronics, and hydronics is in me
  • mattmia2mattmia2 Member Posts: 1,051
    I'd second the oil filled for the lower surface temp. Don't run it at full output. Some ceramic element models also keep the temp of the element cooler. Don't use the kind with an open wire or rod type element.
  • Solid_Fuel_ManSolid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 1,927
    Fan heaters are fast quick heat.

    Oil-filled are better suited for heating a space for hours.

    All electric heaters are 100% efficient. It's the delivery of heat (radiant or convection) that's the difference.

    Before I had my kids rooms finished on a zone of cast iron radiators, I used an oil-filled electric radiator on "low" setting for all of the reasons mentioned here.

    As far as electric heaters go, the oil filled ones are arguably the safest.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
    ChrisJ
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