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Another High Efficiency boiler installation. Bigger boiler room this time.

JohnNY
JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
in THE MAIN WALL


Two Viessmann B2HA-88 boilers and a low loss header/hydraulic separator. Lately, all I see is Viessmann being specified by engineers in my city and I'm glad I've got guys on the payroll who know the product. For me, it looks like I'm going to head out to Rhode Island to get better acquainted with the line.
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  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
    Look how happy my guys are.
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,501
    Their probably thinking about the "closet job" LOL. They should be thrilled with the room they have on this one.

    Or maybe their like me and don't like their picture taken.
    Around here (MA) Viessmann is considered top of the pack but$$. And if you need parts they have to fly them in over the pond......at least with their larger commercial stuff.....more $$$
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,216
    Viessmann is my top pick as well, but I've been getting grumblings from my customers.

    This from a 2002 Vitodens installation:

    As we discussed, the Viessmann has been wonderful BUT when it goes down, we wait, often weeks, for replacement parts. In January, that sucks.

    So, want to come by and take a look and give us your recommendation? We don’t need the fanciest boiler around; just one that is reliable, energy efficient and a little easier to maintain.

    Local replacement parts availability should be part of the calculus of choosing a boiler. Nada out West for Viessmann and it will be the next question I pose to my local rep.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,501
    @Alan (California Radiant) Forbes

    On their commercial stuff we needed an oil pump for a Weishaupt burner on a Viessmann boiler. It's made by Suntec....in France. I couldn't believe they didn't have one in the states. It had to be flown over. and with the Viessmann supplied metric fittings and hoses's retrofitting would have been a nightmare

    I don't care how good the equipment is, you just can't get the bad taste out of your mouth.

    With all the equipment they sell in the states I can't believe 1 warehouse would break the bank.

    I think they are so arrogant they think their equipment will never fail
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
    I like the boilers a lot but parts aren’t their biggest problem. You need to learn their language if you’re going to install and support the product well. The learning curve on Viessmann logic is considerable.
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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    What's with the soldering? I thought you were a Pro Press guy? :)
    Looking good, always top notch.

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  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
    STEVEusaPA said:

    What's with the soldering? I thought you were a Pro Press guy? :)
    Looking good, always top notch.

    Nope. We haven't taken the press plunge just yet.

    Thank you for the compliment.

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  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,216
    I like the quart size Pro Dope under the LLH. I never graduated past pint.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
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  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,833
    Looks like a turbo torch tip. I use a hand held bottle nice and quiet.
  • Paul Pollets
    Paul Pollets Member Posts: 3,663
    It's important to get your wholesaler to stock the most common repair parts. If they want to wholesale the boiler, it certainly makes sense to support the product.
    JohnNY
  • Paul Pollets
    Paul Pollets Member Posts: 3,663
    JohnNY, Nice Job! You'll like the Viessmann Academy courses. Well worth the time. Try the CU3A...doesn't require a LLH and is fully condensing.
    JohnNY
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    JohnNY said:

    STEVEusaPA said:

    What's with the soldering? I thought you were a Pro Press guy? :)
    Looking good, always top notch.

    Nope. We haven't taken the press plunge just yet.

    Thank you for the compliment.

    I'm with you on that, still soldering. My brother was totally against it too since they came out. He bought one last year to do his boiler, now he loves them and uses them on practically all his jobs.

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  • Le John
    Le John Member Posts: 234
    @JohnNY - who makes that Low Loss Header?
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,646
    Nice work as always! I've been on several spec projects and Viessmann is in all of them actually. Glad to see someone is still melting solder out there!

    Have you had good luck with the boiler racks Viessmann makes? We've had a couple of leakers. Same with Viessmann motorized mixing valves.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
    Le John said:

    @JohnNY - who makes that Low Loss Header?

    Viessmann makes it. It's nothing special. No magnetic material or anything like that in it. The price is surprisingly good though.
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  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,294
    STEVEusaPA said:



    My brother was totally against it too since they came out. He bought one last year to do his boiler, now he loves them and uses them on practically all his jobs.

    MY BROTHER IS THE PROBLEM TOO!!!

    The time has come. Let's stop using fire and smoke in people's homes already.
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  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,646
    Smoke and fire! Isn't that what we do?

    Adjust the fire and check the smoke?

    See what I did there....
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,200
    Good to see your out of the closet. Nice looking job going on there. Torch! I don't miss the torch. The guys should know how to solder. Good that you haven't taken the propress plunge. Might be inevitable however.
    Anyway. @JohnNY . Viessmann is a good company to get to know. I have done many a commercial job with little to no regrets. A RI trip will be worth your while. Might want to make a mini vacation out of it. A very pretty little state with much to see and do.

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