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ethicalpaul
ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
Surely there’s better than this out there somewhere:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/100111431

But I sure can’t find it! Any ideas! I’ve seen some real giant stuff in some of your photos but I’d settle for 1” thick, there should be plenty out there considering how much asbestos is getting removed, thanks!!!
NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el

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  • lcw5
    lcw5 Member Posts: 8
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    I bought from this place, it was cheaper than big box and the local plumbing supply place, even with shipping. Plenty of size options as well. Arrived very quickly also.

    https://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/Fiberglass-Pipe-Insulation-SSL-ASJ/

    ethicalpaul
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    Figure out your needs carefully as the shipping is a bit spendy, so you don't want to have to order more than once. Otherwise it is a great source for the insulation.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Thanks guys this is perfect!
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Just for fun, I’ll ask: is anything more than 1” worth it? The price slope is pretty steep
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,322
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    Just for fun, I’ll ask: is anything more than 1” worth it? The price slope is pretty steep

    Not really... don't bother. IMHO
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    ethicalpaul
  • ImYoungxD
    ImYoungxD Member Posts: 130
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    Don't forget that some utility company offers rebates on insulation. I got $25 after ordering $110 of insulation.

    This was National Grid (Gas) even though I have oil heating.
    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Thank you, although if I get out of this for $110 I would happily ignore any rebate LOL
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,304
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    Hello, I have a slightly different way of looking at insulation thickness and how cost effective it is or isn't. I like to imagine how long the job will be in place and what energy will cost towards the end of the job's life. Say (conservatively) energy costs double every twenty years and the insulation will last for forty. That would mean energy that costs one dollar now will cost four dollars. If you use what's considered "cost effective" now, will it need to be ripped out before it's time because of energy cost increases over and above inflation? At a minimum, I want the insulation I install to be cost effective half way through it's lifespan. But, if getting to the insulation to replace it is going to be difficult, I'd put enough on to insure it was still keeping it's owners happy up until the piping needs to be replaced. I know there are variables and mushiness here, but hopefully you get my point. B)

    Yours, Larry
    ethicalpaulSuperJ
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Yep, and thanks, but the problem is I have no numbers for how much savings differential there might be for say 1” vs 1.5” vs 2” etc.

    It would be potentially some fraction of the annual boiler bill, but so hard to calculate, especially since there’s quite a bit of time between firings in my system.
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
  • johncharles
    johncharles Member Posts: 50
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    I just undertook this project a few weeks ago, I bought it all from the place lcw5 mentioned.

    I have a 20' section of my main after the last radiator before the main vent which I did in 1'' the rest I did in 1.5''

    I think the 1.5'' is super worth it, it's more expensive but not very, when you think about it in relation to potentially running the system less.

    The difference between the 1'' and the 1.5'' feels pretty big. At the end of a 20 minute cycle the outside of the 1'' is about 100* while the 1.5'' is only about 77*. That's true also considering that the thinner 1'' is near the end of the main and in theory exposed to less heat. While the 1.5'' is right near the boiler and is still only 77* even though it was exposed to all the heat of the entire cycle.

    You may differ but I think the extra half an inch is definitely way worth it. I'm very pleased with the choice.
    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Thanks for that info. I'll get my actual numbers together and see what the price differential really is.
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
    Double D
  • Steamowner
    Steamowner Member Posts: 19
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    Hello, Does anyone know of a supply store in the Boston area? I just want to buy some PVC elbows and maybe some T's (the rest of my pipes are already insulated) but the shipping is almost as expensive as what I'm buying.
    Express Insulation says their products can be picked up in Malden but I'm in Metro West.
    Boston Building Resources doesn't seem to have what I'm looking for.
    I would like everything to look nice but it's an unfinished basement so I could resort to doing it the messy looking way.

  • adasilva
    adasilva Member Posts: 144
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    You have a Homan's about 23 miles from you. They usually deliver for free and always have stock on hand for EVERYTHING.
  • adasilva
    adasilva Member Posts: 144
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    > @Steamowner said:
    > Hello, Does anyone know of a supply store in the Boston area? I just want to buy some PVC elbows and maybe some T's (the rest of my pipes are already insulated) but the shipping is almost as expensive as what I'm buying.
    > Express Insulation says their products can be picked up in Malden but I'm in Metro West.
    > Boston Building Resources doesn't seem to have what I'm looking for.
    > I would like everything to look nice but it's an unfinished basement so I could resort to doing it the messy looking way.

    Homan's is near the North shore as an FYI
  • rhw1
    rhw1 Member Posts: 32
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    As a novice and completely naive what is wrong with buying insulation from a box store like HD or Lowes? They accept all returns easily if you overbuy and if not enough they are usually close buy to pick some more up quickly with no shipping involved.
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Their insulation is very thin, like maybe 1/2" and it's really expensive. I made this post because I had purchased some of that stuff and used it, but then I saw so much better insulation in some pictures of people's boilers.
    NJ Steam Homeowner. See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el
    adasilva
  • Bio
    Bio Member Posts: 278
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    Check out Metro Supply in Clifton, they recently moved from woodland park, I bought from them a few years back
  • gfrbrookline
    gfrbrookline Member Posts: 753
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    Republic is always a good option. They have several locations around Boston.
  • Chris_L
    Chris_L Member Posts: 336
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    adasilva said:

    You have a Homan's about 23 miles from you. They usually deliver for free and always have stock on hand for EVERYTHING.

    Looks like there is one in Medford too, which would be much closer to Boston (and not far from me). I'd never heard of Homans. Hope they sell retail.
  • adasilva
    adasilva Member Posts: 144
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    @Chris_L I've dealt with them for about 10 years now and they will sell to homeowners. They are usually pretty good on their prices as well & better quality then the box stores.