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I Don't Like Mondays

New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,429
edited September 2018 in Strictly Steam
And it's not just the silicone chip...

It's 3-1/2" supplies, 7 returns, hot water loops, about 10,000lbs, and the Patriots lose:




New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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  • But I think Tuesday will be better...


    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,010
    Thats gonna keep you busy for awhile!! But you can handle it!
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,834
    edited September 2018
    What's going in to replace that old Mills?

    Edit- the answer just popped up.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    Nice, staying oil or going to gas?
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 5,302
    I want to work for @New England SteamWorks when I grow up.
    steve
    AMservicesSeanBeans
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,834
    @STEVEusaPA , in our case it should be "if we ever grow up" >:)
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    STEVEusaPA
  • Boy was I wrong! Tuesday was worse...



    Remnants of Florence flooded us right out and off the job!
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
    Yeah it was really rainy today. I was thinking of you sitting in my nice dry office :D
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • AMservices
    AMservices Member Posts: 597
    At least the boiler is above water.
    Had to leave so quick you left your 3' behind.
    I pray to get jobs like yours. Nothing like a good Physical/technical challenge to keep you on your toes.
    Can't wait to see the finished masterpiece.
    CLamb
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 10,242
    I was gonna ask for the 3' aluminum you left behind but @AMservices beat me to it. those 2500 mills used to crack back sections all the time. that's gotta have 40 yrs on it
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,010
    and you know that wrench will be needed tomorrow somewhere else cause thats how luck runs !
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Unfortunately, no time to break off and go somewhere else. Schedule is way too tight, and yesterday was a disaster. Instead, time to break out the waders!

    Still a long way to go:


    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,010
    cool graphic, what program is that?
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,429
    edited September 2018
    I remember when I quoted this job in April that I wanted it for the challenge...

    I thought: "Whose going to do this one right besides me?"

    But April turned to September and now the phone rings every 15 minutes because the weather finally turned, so one can hardly hold a wrench for the phone...

    Add in a hurricane, and:

    -again, 4", 3-1/2 ", and 2-1/2" supplies, which means the Big Boy Threader, and 7 returns.

    Slow arduous progress, but, -progress none-the-less...






    There's still the hot water loop, VXT, electrical, and insulation.

    One way or another I suppose, we'll get her done...

    Is it Spring yet?

    It's oil @Dave0176

    It's SketchUp @gerry gill
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,518
    It's looking amazing!
  • AMservices
    AMservices Member Posts: 597
    @New England SteamWorks
    "I thought: "Whose going to do this one right besides me?"

    That's what I think every steam system i see.

    Get er done
    SeanBeans
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,010
    Damn- thats some gorgeous pipe work. My hats off to you!
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Mike_Sheppard
    Mike_Sheppard Member Posts: 680
    Great work!!!

    I wish I could figure out sketchup. I can’t figure out anything close to what you’re doing with it. Lol
    Never stop learning.
    SeanBeans
  • Jackmartin
    Jackmartin Member Posts: 181
    Nice job.
  • Exhausted, but done:









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    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    IronmanSailah
  • I thought someone would get the opening line of the post...

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    Beautiful work.

    Be glad you're not down south. Even up here in the mountains of VA, we've had all kinds of flooding. I've never seen such a wet summer.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    I'm curious: why did they stay with oil when there's gas already in the building?
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,931
    Great looking work!

    Just wondering why oil burner for boiler and 2 gas (?) water heaters?
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,834
    edited September 2018

    I thought someone would get the opening line of the post...

    Because no one wants to admit they're old enough to remember when that song came out............ :#

    Awesome job!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • When I started out you couldn't give gas away. Oil was the ticket. Now it's knee jerk that oil is bad, awful, rotten.

    The pendulum swung. It will swing again.

    True oil had a few price problems about 6 years ago. But that is done.

    Gas in New England is about to have a much bigger price problem (supply vs demand) and don't say I didn't warn you (NIMBY).

    Add in:

    1. Oil is more efficient than gas

    2. Service: nobody is ever going to care about you as much your local oil company because their life blood depends on selling you oil.

    3. Lawrence, MA

    Oil is good. It always has been, and it always will be. Especially in New England where it is prevalent.

    It's nuts to discriminate or fear oil. Every customer is different. This one has an excellent relationship with his oil supplier, so why not take advantage of that extra layer of service, dependability, and efficiency?

    The trick is to be equally comfortable, stocked, and versed in both fuels.

    Which of course we are...



    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    STEVEusaPA
  • As evidence, the stream of Nightmare Mondays continues as tomorrow we tackle, this time in a gas conversion, The Chapel

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,834

    When I started out you couldn't give gas away. Oil was the ticket. Now it's knee jerk that oil is bad, awful, rotten.

    The pendulum swung. It will swing again.

    True oil had a few price problems about 6 years ago. But that is done.

    Gas in New England is about to have a much bigger price problem (supply vs demand) and don't say I didn't warn you (NIMBY).

    Add in:

    1. Oil is more efficient than gas

    2. Service: nobody is ever going to care about you as much your local oil company because their life blood depends on selling you oil.

    3. Lawrence, MA

    Oil is good. It always has been, and it always will be. Especially in New England where it is prevalent.

    It's nuts to discriminate or fear oil. Every customer is different. This one has an excellent relationship with his oil supplier, so why not take advantage of that extra layer of service, dependability, and efficiency?

    The trick is to be equally comfortable, stocked, and versed in both fuels.

    Which of course we are...



    I guess that depends on where you are. In the Baltimore area, no one wants oil at all. Those who still use it will convert as soon as they can. Pretty much every oil boiler replacement we do involves converting to gas.

    It doesn't help that the four biggest oil suppliers in the area are all owned by the same company- Star Gas Partners. Service departments have been decimated. Our company has picked up a few oil boiler servicing accounts as a result, but all the owners want to switch. There may still be a few smaller companies that do a decent job, but we just keep hearing horror stories from customers.

    Case in point, from back when I took a lot more pics than I do now:

    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/132567/one-of-the-worst-maintained-oil-fired-boilers-weve-seen
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    Same here in NJ, no one wants oil. Even people who have perfectly good boilers want them replaced or a gas gun stuck in. To be honest I haven’t installed an oil fired boiler in ten years, lots of oil boilers have been ripped out and converted though.

    Case in point, I installed a gas steam replacement in Jersey City a few years back where they had a waaay oversized gas boiler installed a month prior (long story short, contractor ended up getting sued because the heat just didn’t work, he installed an EG-65 where an EG-40 was all that was needed and did terrible near boiler piping)

    Anyway upon initial fire up I noticed gas pressure very low ( it was February and it was cold) I had 3.5” supply and 2.7” manifold. Gas company came tried upping pressure to no avail, the next day they ripped up the street and replaced the gas main. Apparently they had gotten many calls that night and the rep told me too many people converted to gas at once and they weren’t ready. Supply is definitely going to be a problem in the older city’s.

    In Newark NJ they’ve been replacing gas mains everywhere you look.
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    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Well, oil in New England is alive and well. We have a few big monopoly-ist companies, but a great many mom and pop oil companies still operating every where. And obviously doing a good enough job to stay in business, -as there is plenty of competition.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    STEVEusaPA