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Strange But True: A Burnham With Early Corrosion Failure

New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
in Strictly Steam
Go figure...



Nothing to do but do what we do:

Design



Build



Commission




All better now...

New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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Mike_Sheppard

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  • Mike_Sheppard
    Mike_Sheppard Member Posts: 696
    Great looking job. It’s so rare to see it done properly all the way.

    What software for the design?
    Never stop learning.
  • Phil53
    Phil53 Member Posts: 73
    Better boiler, and much better install, should last a long time. Might want to make sure water quality and quantity wasn't a factor, but I'm sure you've already done that.
  • newagedawn
    newagedawn Member Posts: 586
    dont know why people like and keep using burnhams, they have been failing for yrs, very nice looking job, got all the bells and whistles on that one
    "The bitter taste of a poor install lasts far longer than the JOY of the lowest price"
    Dan Foley
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,437
    edited April 2018
    Awesome as always @New England SteamWorks, but to be fair to Burnham, that boiler was piped wrong...and likely never maintained or tested for water quality. Having said that, I’ve replaced many a leaking Burnham, independence and V series.
  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,774
    What's the vertical tee on the skim port for?
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    ratio said:

    What's the vertical tee on the skim port for?

    1. Observation port while skimming
    2. Additives such as SteamMaster tablets.

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    ratio
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    Danny Scully said:

    Having said that, I’ve replaced many a leaking Burnham, independence and V series.

    It's the gift that keeps on giving!

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • bill714
    bill714 Member Posts: 22
    Nice job! No pig tale on the gauges,pressuretrol?
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,437
    edited April 2018
    No need @bill714, he created a water seal.
  • bill714
    bill714 Member Posts: 22
    I see, could this be done only off the top of the boiler or could use a side port too.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,973
    The Pig tail is used to trap water between steam and controls to protect it from the steam damage... The trap is formed in the way the control manifold was piped . With every conceivable cleaning port ...

    I have to say it is the most impressive near boiler steam piping I have seen in a very long time... The alignment looks perfect . First time I have seen an Y at the Hartford loop . Cant get closer then that ... Curious about the shut offs on the main ...



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    New England SteamWorksDan Foley
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,289
    Without the King Valves on the mains how would one check the relief valve?
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,437
    edited April 2018
    Your boiler is tapped 1/4” @bill714, so the water seal isn’t necessarily the better option there as it’s the same size at the pigtail. The union installed below your pressuretrol makes maintenance a breeze. To answer your question though, it could be done off the top or side port.
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    Well, except the MegSteam doesn't have a spare side or top tapping. If I get a customer with a MegaSteam that wants a fancy gauge header I bush the 1/4" tapping to 1/2" right out of the boiler and build this:


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    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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    SuperTech
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,178
    It’s a beaut.......
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    Did you lay the camera on the ground to take the third picture? :)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,248
    I have redone controls and built a gauge/control header by putting tees/nipples (SS or brass) on the sight glass ports. The glass could be reinstalled off to the side on branch of the tee or the fronton the run.
    The extra opening would be for the water sealed header.
    The lower opening plugged and allows lower port cleanout to see what sludge might be headed to the bottom of the sight glass.

    The sight glass would be back to the original connection levels.
  • Dave in QCA
    Dave in QCA Member Posts: 1,788
    Beautiful install, all around! But.... why is that boiler green?
    Dave in Quad Cities, America
    Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
    System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
    Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,525
    Dave in QCA said:

    why is that boiler green?

    You obviously haven't heard about the Green Movement @Dave in QCA. You've got to get with it!

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    Dave in QCACanucker
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,178
    New England SteamWorks said:

    Dave in QCA said:

    why is that boiler green?

    You obviously haven't heard about the Green Movement @Dave in QCA. You've got to get with it!

    Sometimes green is good....... ;)
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,255
    @jughne,

    Don't know how I know this or if it's true but I was told way back that a sight glass had to be piped straight out of the boiler into the sight glass no elbows etc. Of course you can put tees or Ys between the boiler and the sight glass but the glass has to be on the run of the tee

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