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Strange But True: A Burnham With Early Corrosion Failure

Go figure...



Nothing to do but do what we do:

Design



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Commission




All better now...

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  • Mike_SheppardMike_Sheppard Posts: 140Member
    Great looking job. It’s so rare to see it done properly all the way.

    What software for the design?
  • Phil53Phil53 Posts: 37Member
    Better boiler, and much better install, should last a long time. Might want to make sure water quality and quantity wasn't a factor, but I'm sure you've already done that.
  • newagedawnnewagedawn Posts: 488Member
    dont know why people like and keep using burnhams, they have been failing for yrs, very nice looking job, got all the bells and whistles on that one
    "The bitter taste of a poor install lasts far longer than the JOY of the lowest price"
  • Danny ScullyDanny Scully Posts: 914Member
    edited April 26
    Awesome as always @New England SteamWorks, but to be fair to Burnham, that boiler was piped wrong...and likely never maintained or tested for water quality. Having said that, I’ve replaced many a leaking Burnham, independence and V series.
  • ratioratio Posts: 1,435Member
    What's the vertical tee on the skim port for?
  • New England SteamWorksNew England SteamWorks Posts: 1,010Member
    ratio said:

    What's the vertical tee on the skim port for?

    1. Observation port while skimming
    2. Additives such as SteamMaster tablets.

    Serving Rhode Island & Eastern Massachusetts
    Old Houses & Steam Heat Our Specialty
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorksNew England SteamWorks Posts: 1,010Member

    Having said that, I’ve replaced many a leaking Burnham, independence and V series.

    It's the gift that keeps on giving!

    Serving Rhode Island & Eastern Massachusetts
    Old Houses & Steam Heat Our Specialty
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • bill714bill714 Posts: 17Member
    Nice job! No pig tale on the gauges,pressuretrol?
  • Danny ScullyDanny Scully Posts: 914Member
    edited April 26
    No need @bill714, he created a water seal.
  • bill714bill714 Posts: 17Member
    I see, could this be done only off the top of the boiler or could use a side port too.
  • Big EdBig Ed Posts: 1,054Member
    The Pig tail is used to trap water between steam and controls to protect it from the steam damage... The trap is formed in the way the control manifold was piped . With every conceivable cleaning port ...

    I have to say it is the most impressive near boiler steam piping I have seen in a very long time... The alignment looks perfect . First time I have seen an Y at the Hartford loop . Cant get closer then that ... Curious about the shut offs on the main ...



    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • Long Beach EdLong Beach Ed Posts: 688Member
    Without the King Valves on the mains how would one check the relief valve?
  • Danny ScullyDanny Scully Posts: 914Member
    edited April 26
    Your boiler is tapped 1/4” @bill714, so the water seal isn’t necessarily the better option there as it’s the same size at the pigtail. The union installed below your pressuretrol makes maintenance a breeze. To answer your question though, it could be done off the top or side port.
  • New England SteamWorksNew England SteamWorks Posts: 1,010Member
    Well, except the MegSteam doesn't have a spare side or top tapping. If I get a customer with a MegaSteam that wants a fancy gauge header I bush the 1/4" tapping to 1/2" right out of the boiler and build this:


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  • Dave0176Dave0176 Posts: 764Member
    It’s a beaut.......
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
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  • ChrisJChrisJ Posts: 8,834Member
    Did you lay the camera on the ground to take the third picture? :)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment

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  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Posts: 4,305Member
    I have redone controls and built a gauge/control header by putting tees/nipples (SS or brass) on the sight glass ports. The glass could be reinstalled off to the side on branch of the tee or the fronton the run.
    The extra opening would be for the water sealed header.
    The lower opening plugged and allows lower port cleanout to see what sludge might be headed to the bottom of the sight glass.

    The sight glass would be back to the original connection levels.
  • Dave in QCADave in QCA Posts: 1,675Member
    Beautiful install, all around! But.... why is that boiler green?
    Dave in Quad Cities, America
    Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
    System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
    Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
    http://grandviewdavenport.com
  • New England SteamWorksNew England SteamWorks Posts: 1,010Member

    why is that boiler green?

    You obviously haven't heard about the Green Movement @Dave in QCA. You've got to get with it!

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    Old Houses & Steam Heat Our Specialty
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Posts: 764Member

    why is that boiler green?

    You obviously haven't heard about the Green Movement @Dave in QCA. You've got to get with it!

    Sometimes green is good....... ;)
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
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  • EBEBRATT-EdEBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 3,853Member
    @jughne,

    Don't know how I know this or if it's true but I was told way back that a sight glass had to be piped straight out of the boiler into the sight glass no elbows etc. Of course you can put tees or Ys between the boiler and the sight glass but the glass has to be on the run of the tee
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