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Manufacturing in America

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  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Come on Fred you can tell us :p
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,644
    Red or blue thermometers are usually alcohol. Were back then as well I believe.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,510
    edited December 2016
    I have a couple of mercury contactors down the cellar, one is 2 pole and the other 3 pole. Each pole probably has about half a cubic inch of mercury and is good for 60 amps.

    i never played with mercury as a kid, gunpowder was as far as I'd go.

    I got them from old wave solder machines but I never figured out why they didn't just use standard contactors, it's not like a resistance heating element cares about zero bounce switching. They can put those in my casket when I go - just don't tell the EPA!

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,369
    Fred said:

    Gordy said:

    Fred said:

    It seems to me that in the glass, they were red but when we got the mercury out the mercury was sliver.

    The Red ones were alcohol, The silver ones Mercury. Did you drink the red ones Fred?
    Nope, never drank them. I just know, whatever color they were in the glass, we had mercury balls that we played with for hours. Hit them with your hand and they'd split into several tiny balls and then we'd push them back together (at least the ones we'd find). Today we'd have to call a hazmat crew out for a clean up.
    Yes,
    And there's a good reason for that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_hatter_disease

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,644
    Mercury was one of the greatest high load switching substances known. Mercury switches were used extensively in the electrical feild. Not simply the small hermetic tip switches, but super-fast and arc free. Lasting nearly indefinitely as the mercury was in an oxygen free environment.

    SCR's have replaced mercury, but don't have the longevity.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,510
    SCR's and Triac's are great as long as you can limit the current, if you don't it let's the smoke escape every time.

    Same thing goes for switch mode power supplies, as long as you limit the abuse you fine - otherwise just wait for the explosion. If you really need rugged go with something like a constant voltage transformer (like SOLA); they are heavy and inefficient but if it absolutely has to be reliable that is the way to go. i pray any power supply in a missile launch facility is NOT switch-mode.

    i have designed all of the above and you can put the above into the bank and never look back.

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    My old house had all Mercury light switches. Quiet, and reliable.
  • bob_46
    bob_46 Member Posts: 813
    I can remember watching the dentist mix mercury around with some other stuff and put it in my cavities .

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,644
    Here in Maine they still use amalgam for fillings. My mother worked for a dentist for 35 years.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • MikeL_2
    MikeL_2 Member Posts: 518
    I think manufacturers and big business needs to adopt a more patriotic mode of hiring & maintaining jobs. We've made it possible for General Dynamics to average 500 million dollars profit per month this past year, and, they've been awarded 6.5 billion dollars worth of defense contract work; why can't they " sacrifice " a few small percentage points of profit to keep jobs on our soil. The same should apply to donald trump - his properties souvenir & gift shops are filled with cheaply produced items from overseas...............
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Absolutely. The "military machines" contractors, and suppliers especially.
  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    ChrisJ said:

    Here's something to chew on........
    it's Canada but the USA is very similar if not identical in this regard.

    The slope just went negative according to one story I recently heard.
    Mad Dog said:

    Did anyone have a "bangsite" cannon?

    Oh, yes. Pretty sure it ran on carbide, though. Fun with acetylene!
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,474
    Wow! Looking at the chart makes me realize I should start doing something fun. Time is Screaming by!
    Rick
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    @rick in Alaska , I'd respond but I'm already dead! :)
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,474
    I figure I will have to work at least a week or two after I am dead just to pay it off. :'(
    Rick
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
    @Fred
    Wake up occasionally and take a sip of the beer, otherwise they're liable to throw dirt on ya. :smile:
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    @Paul48 That's why I try to keep moving!
    Paul48
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,510
    In the summer I can sit on the front porch and throw the empty beer bottles at the kids. In the winter my only hope is that the door locks hold.

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,369
    SWEI said:

    ChrisJ said:

    Here's something to chew on........
    it's Canada but the USA is very similar if not identical in this regard.

    The slope just went negative according to one story I recently heard.
    Mad Dog said:

    Did anyone have a "bangsite" cannon?

    Oh, yes. Pretty sure it ran on carbide, though. Fun with acetylene!
    I've yet to see that and I keep looking anytime I hear a GMO argument.

    Do you have the data handy?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    It was all over the media a few days ago. I don't have the official CDC release, but http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/2016/12/us-life-expectancy-falls-many-kinds-death-increase summarizes it.
    ChrisJ
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    The first thing my uncle noticed on his trips here from Italy was obesity, and how rampid it is in the U.S. Just a Europeans observation.........
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,369
    Gordy said:

    The first thing my uncle noticed on his trips here from Italy was obesity, and how rampid it is in the U.S. Just a Europeans observation.........

    Yes,
    The US has an obesity problem.

    As does Canada and England. Not sure about other places, but there may be more as well.

    We didn't need your uncle to tell us that, just open your eyes. :)



    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    No my Uncle did not have to, I already knew that. It became so common you just take it in stride. However when a foreigner comes to this country, and that is his FIRST observation as to how many. It says huge amounts. We need to look to Europe, and other countries as to leading a healthier life. Much has to do with eating habits.
  • CLamb
    CLamb Member Posts: 333
    ChrisJ said:

    As does Canada and England. Not sure about other places, but there may be more as well.

    Mexico has the world's highest child obesity rate.

  • SlamDunk
    SlamDunk Member Posts: 1,696
    ChrisJ said:

    Gordy said:

    The first thing my uncle noticed on his trips here from Italy was obesity, and how rampid it is in the U.S. Just a Europeans observation.........

    Yes,
    The US has an obesity problem.

    As does Canada and England. Not sure about other places, but there may be more as well.

    We didn't need your uncle to tell us that, just open your eyes. :)



    It is not just obesity. In the late 90's, I was working in Italy, eating lunch with a severl guys. The youngest asked about Americans' love for big cars. I had recently read about Fords new excursion and told them about it.

    they asked how big isit?
    @18-19ft long......they did the conversion, 6 meters!???!

    what is this for? work truck?

    No, family car, it weighs 8000lbs.

    Mama mia! how much fuel does it use? a lot of chatter in italian

    I think 15mpg....

    That is when the oldest guy put his fork down and said, what the hell is wrong with you Americans? We pay a fortune for gas because you are drinking it all just to drive to work!

    It was an interesting viewpoint on american consumption.

    GordyCLamb
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    yup been there 3 times. Americans are gluttonous. You don't see 2" thick steaks there either. Lunch is the big meal of the day. Guess why.
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    @SlamDunk , I really don't think their gas costs are in any way related to our consumption. Their government will argue it is the logistics/distribution costs. Back in the 90's gasoline was about $5.00/gal., in Italy. Today it is about $9.00/gal. I have a sister and two brothers and their families there. On the surface, one would ask, how can they afford that, but in reality, most have methane tanks in the trunks of their cars and they fill up on methane at a more reasonable cost (I'm not sure what that price is today but I could find out).
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
    From reading....Italy may not be the country to model ourselves after. They are having problems with childhood obesity.
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Because they have become Americanized......
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Why do you think it's a problem in children now days Paul....see above childhood activities we use to, and still participate in.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,633
    Gee Gordy...ALWAYS seems to be The Americans fault, heh? BAD AMERICANS. Bad Bad Americans....shall I go to confession tommorow? Mad Dog
    Snowrider
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
    Preaching to the choir Gordy.......No need to defend Italians....No, they have not become Americanized. They have become modern-day kids. We ,Americans get blamed for enough. We don't need the blame of other countries kids getting fat.
    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,633
    Gordy...Follow Europe's lead? REALLY ? How are things going over there these days? Fill us in? Mad Dog
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Who said always Mad Dog? However you will have to admit we have some bad habits. At least as viewed by some foreign dwellers.
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
    We are hated the world over. The level of hatred is directly proportional to the level of aid we give them, or their enemies. We need to tell them all to go "fan ice".
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    Thats a mouth full Paul, and very true. Maybe we should all go to confession if that applies.....we give chocolate cake to everyone for desert every meal then take it away. What do you think will happen.

    I have always said worry about our own soil, and population. However once your declare yourself the cops of the world, and others depend on your policing it tough to cut the cord.
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
    They get these wild ideas, that because we drive a gas guzzler, it causes them problems. I suppose they will hate us....worse?
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,369
    Gordy said:

    Because they have become Americanized......

    You know Gordy,
    Not everything is our fault.

    Seriously.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
    ChrisJ said:


    Gordy said:

    Because they have become Americanized......

    You know Gordy,
    Not everything is our fault.

    Seriously.
    So the parrot said........

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,873
    Gordy said:

    Because they have become Americanized......

    Maybe it is connected to the rise of fast food chains showing up in Europe?

    When I visit Italy, most of then people I know and stay with shop every day on the way home. Fresh produce, meats, pastas and bake goods. Many have small gardens or share community garden.

    Wine instead of soft drinks. They eat healthy and small portions.

    One exception is their love of Nutella :) My son came home addicted to the brown stuff.











    In larger cities where the chain fast food shops set up, like here there are lines of mostly younger people, same in the college towns.

    Food quality and lack of exercise, lead to weight issues. Although many Italians are biking and or kicking a soccer ball around a lot.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Gordy