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New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
in Strictly Steam
Ran into this boiler that wasn't functioning very well. The two supply mains are each 2-1/2". At least the header piping shows a certain amount of creativity?



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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
    edited November 2016
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    This one wasn't going to be easy. To begin with, they put the boiler in the wrong spot. If a decent header was ever going to be built and connected properly to the mains, the boiler was going to have to move. Ugh.




    Now what?

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  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
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    Drink a case of beer, like the last guy. It'll all become clearer! :wink:
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  • Leon82
    Leon82 Member Posts: 684
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    Construct the proper header?
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,525
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    As usual they won't do anything larger than 2" (unless they use copper, LOL)

    Other than being undersized he made some effort to do it right. Could have brought the two supplies into the header seperatley which would have helped
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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    Leon82 said:

    Construct the proper header?

    I think @Leon82 has it correct.

    But, I'm not doing anything until @Fred weighs in....

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  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
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    I don't know..........I kinda liked the orgasmatron :smile:
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    Paul48 said:

    I don't know..........I kinda liked the orgasmatron :smile:

    :) I say see if you can raise those risers up so you can put a nice drop header in. I wouldn't mind seeing that Hartford loop raised just a bit also. The bottom of it looks like it's pretty close to the bottom of the boiler. Nothing like a little bit more water in the boiler if there were a leak in the wet return and the LWCO were to fail, but that's just me anticipating a "worse case" scenario. Is there a skim port anywhere on there? On the back side maybe?
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    Fred said:

    I say see if you can raise those risers up so you can put a nice drop header in. I wouldn't mind seeing that Hartford loop raised just a bit also

    Thank you Fred. How about something like this?




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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited November 2016
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    Nice job!! @RI_SteamWorks ...... 4 inch header??
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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    edited November 2016
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    That is Fantastic! And the Wye on the Hartford loop looks amazing Too!
    Paul S_3
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    Maybe some Big Mouths would be a nice addition?


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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    Most definitely, and with a strainer on it, no less!
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,469
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    Talk about making a silk purse out of a sows ear...nice job. I like the remnants of the old coal bin next to it. It's like a bridge across time.
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    Beautiful job as always @RI_SteamWorks
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,376
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    Awesome job @RI_SteamWorks.
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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    And how about a vaporstat and low pressure gauge?


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    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    Wow, talk about a job done well! It looks beautiful @RI_SteamWorks
  • hboogz
    hboogz Member Posts: 113
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    Looks great! I'm not a pro but have a question on the vapor stat and gauge setup: i don't see a pigtail but see a modified loop with black pipe. This setup removes the need of a pigtail obviously?
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    hboogz said:

    Looks great! I'm not a pro but have a question on the vapor stat and gauge setup: i don't see a pigtail but see a modified loop with black pipe. This setup removes the need of a pigtail obviously?

    Thank you. And yes, with the added benefit of a larger pipe diameter making a clog less likely.

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  • hboogz
    hboogz Member Posts: 113
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    Awesome. Any special requirements you implement? Close nipples to form the loop? First time I'm seeing that setup, looks great.
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
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    Dang! now thats one sweet looking header replacement. You do some of the nicest pipe work i've seen. Well done!
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  • Koan
    Koan Member Posts: 439
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    great work! can someone share a source for the fiberglass insulation and the plastic wrap that goes around it please? I have a small amount of patchwork to do - thanks
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
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    Man I need to come work with you one of these days, tell me when.
    Peter Owens
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  • GregWeiss
    GregWeiss Member Posts: 30
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    @Koan http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/
  • Koan
    Koan Member Posts: 439
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    @GregWeiss

    Thank you!!!

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