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All Original 1938 Steam System Complete With Original Heating Blue Prints
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Nice find. New owner. Beautifully installed system. Not, however, terribly efficient: Time for steam to header: 33 minutes. Time for mains to vent: Unknown. I had to give up after 40 minutes! Radiation is recessed Arco cast iron convectors. New owner is removing the convector grills, sandblasting, and powder-coating. Should come out looking very nice.
Owner wants to stay with oil: MegaSteam Dreamin'!
Owner wants to stay with oil: MegaSteam Dreamin'!
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I'll try and post a picture of the original blueprints. Pretty cool to have.
I am thinking wrap-around header to pick up the 3 supply mains.New England SteamWorks
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What kind of boiler is that (Thatcher?) , my old Delco had that same pressure gauge. The original prints would be very interesting.
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Do post a picture of the blueprints -- I'd love to see them!
One wonders what can be done to decrease the time to venting -- although seven minutes from steam in the header may not be all that bad, it should be better -- IMHO. But 33 minutes to develop steam? Eeek.
Wonderful find -- and it must be nice to have a client who seems interested!Br. Jamie, osb
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That boiler either has a hole above the waterline, or it's full of soot, or the burner is way underfired, or it was never baffled properly.RI_SteamWorks said:Time for steam to header: 33 minutes. Time for mains to vent: Unknown. I had to give up after 40 minutes!
We replaced a similar boiler with a MegaSteam some years ago- huge improvement!
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Boiler is (was) a Weil Mclain. 40 minutes + to vent was after steam got to the header! I suspect it was a combination of all three Frank.New England SteamWorks
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I'm with Steamhead on this one. Can't wait to see the results, Ryan. Thanks for posting!Retired and loving it.
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Here's a blueprint shot. There's another 2 pages for 1st & 2nd flrs with Arco model numbers and EDRs.New England SteamWorks
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Meanwhile, Master Pipe Fitter Nelson (aka Paganini) unleashed the magic pipe wrenchesNew England SteamWorks
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The original boiler had a Quiet May. Nice!Retired and loving it.0
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Dan's most famous quote? "High pressure goes to low pressure. Always".
2nd most famous: "Underground returns are guilty until proven innocent".
A good defense lawyer in his spare time, Paganini put down his pipe wrenches and sought to prove the returns innocent with a more industrious tool than his standard wrenchesNew England SteamWorks
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Betting against Dan is never a good propositionNew England SteamWorks
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Well done, guys.Retired and loving it.0
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Not easy, but supply mains all tied in.New England SteamWorks
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It looks Great!0
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great job RI!!ASM Mechanical Company
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Good as it gets.Retired and loving it.0
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Nice work. Can't wait to see the usage numbers next season...
Had to go look that one up. Fascinating.DanHolohan said:The original boiler had a Quiet May.
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Quiet May killed the coal-fired boiler business. That company was brilliant.Retired and loving it.0
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And IIRC, that company was located right here in Baltimore.DanHolohan said:Quiet May killed the coal-fired boiler business. That company was brilliant.
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Roth tank in today.
Poor Ilka. She got fixed on Tuesday and the Vet told her no boiler installs for two weeks. That lasted about 2 days, naturally...New England SteamWorks
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Is she still talking to you?
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Ha! On day one, no Bob. On Day two: no (she knew it was a MegaSteam). In the afternoon we both crumbled: she spoke, and she got to MegaSteam...
Don't tell the Vet...New England SteamWorks
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Just curious. In the picture of the boiler installed at site, what's the thinking with the 2 main takeoffs on the left being oversized and then reduced just before the king valves? Instead of being brought down same size all the way to the header?0
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Dan's book Greening Steam, Page 94 explains it Abracadabra.New England SteamWorks
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reducing velocity into the takeoff, keeping water in the header, dryer steam. got it.RI_SteamWorks said:Dan's book Greening Steam, Page 94 explains it Abracadabra.
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That is one great looking installation! You set the bar high
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You are too kind Gerry. Truth is, when I need inspiration I always turn to your website. Imitation, after all, is the sincerest form of flattery:New England SteamWorks
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It's a wrap:New England SteamWorks
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Nice job!!! @RI_SteamWorks ...I like the way you use Gerry's trenching idea for the wet return and the wye strainers before the GortonsASM Mechanical Company
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Oh. How about an ode to The Dead Men:New England SteamWorks
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Lastly, a Caption Contest:New England SteamWorks
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Superb!Retired and loving it.0
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I hope Ilka will be a contributor here as well!--NBC0
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That picture immediately made me think of this picture from the old RCA ads. Even has the head tilt down.
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