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too many cycles

al54
al54 Member Posts: 4
I have a alpine 150 boiler installed sept 27 2013 . i have 5 heat zones and a hot water storage. 1850 sq ft stucco frame house no wall insulation . to date the boiler has cycled more than 65000 times, I cant imagine this is correct but I cannot get US Boiler to discuss my situation . can you provide me some info
thanks,
al54

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  • Brewbeer
    Brewbeer Member Posts: 616
    That an average of one cycle every 19 minutes, which means during heating season you are probably cycling even more frequently.
    Many zones with small heat loads will do this to low mass boilers. There are things you can do to reduce cycling like combining zones together, or installing a buffer tank.
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  • al54
    al54 Member Posts: 4
    other than your recommendations can the settings be adjusted on the sage 1 system and or the thermostats also be timed better
  • al54
    al54 Member Posts: 4
    by the way Brewbeer I forgot to thank you for your comment so thanks
    al54
  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,481
    al54 what is your location? If you e-mail me I can connect you with someone who will help you from Burnham. My e-mail is [email protected]
  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,481
    Burnham would like you to have your installer/contractor/service person call them directly from your facility and they will walk them through a solution to your problem.
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    5 zones in an 1850 sqft house?
    In my house I was getting excessive cycling due to Mum in law having apt attached to house.She has roughly 800sqft.I combined her zone with our downstairs heating zone.I went from 45 cycles to 2 per day.Boiler is firing at lowest oiutput.Will be interesting to compare gas bills over the year but the cycling issue has stopped which I am happy about.On average including hot water I am cycling 4-6 times a day.Boiler goes to 115k and house is 2750sqft build like an average Long Island house....
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,514
    edited January 2016
    To much zoning. It's the leading cause of cycling. Next to oversized boiler. Put both those together your playing ping pong off high limit. You have both.
    CMadatMe
  • al54
    al54 Member Posts: 4
    Hi Tim , im in westchester cty, ny. my email is
  • CMadatMe
    CMadatMe Member Posts: 3,085
    edited January 2016
    Boiler more then likely over sized and as others have said zoning could have a lot to do with it. Best approach is a new room x room/ zone x zone heat loss, emitter measurements and calculation of btu/hr capability of them. From there a curve and modulation rate adjustment probably and you may want to look into this providing you have the correct version of the Sage Control

    https://file.ac/5CdWisGaB8A/Sage Zone Control Value Sheet.pdf
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