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8 steam rules every tech should know

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RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 2,067
edited May 22 in Strictly Steam

This video goes over 8 rules I follow when troubleshooting a steam system. Most were learned from @DanHolohan

Ray Wohlfarth
Boiler Lessons
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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,717

    Excellent....Mad Dog

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 27,699

    Good summary! I especially like the comparison with air conditioning — that may help some of the younger techs. see what is happening — with one exception; as you note, steam systems breathe, while sir conditioning and heat pumps, although they work on the same principle of latent heat, do NOT breathe!

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    Ironman
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 3,133

    @RayWohlfarth Rule#1…steam is not hydronic? I've seen textbooks and others define it as hydronic. Is your description meant only for the context in which you are explaining it here?

    Always, luv your stuff. The 8 rules are a great reminder to follow. Thanks for sharing.

  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 2,067

    Thanks @Mad Dog_2

    @Jamie Hall I was referring to the phase changes that occur. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow

    @Intplm. Great question and that drives me crazy. Both systems use a boiler to heat water but steam operates way differently than hydronic or any other Hvac mode. For example if you speed up a fan you will get more air. If you increase the operating control set point on a hydronic system, you get more heat. If you increase the steam pressure, the steam will slow down and other weird things happen. Sorry for the ramble

    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
    Intplm.PC7060
  • johnnyb
    johnnyb Member Posts: 3

    where does air return into the steam boiler each cycle? how does air get into a hydronic system? Love your stuff and your attitude!

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 27,699

    Most — say 99.9% — steam systems have vents to allow air in the system to escape to the atmosphere as steam is raised by the boiler. Those same vents allow air back into the system when the boiler shuts off and the steam condenses (which it does very very rapidly!). That's intentional. There are a very few steam systems which are intended to not have that happen — to have lower pressure (a "vacuum") when not steaming — but they are very rare indeed.

    There are a lot of ways air can, and does, get into hot water — hydronic — systems. It's not supposed to, and if the system is designed and installed well it won't happen. But… not all systems are. Makeup water — which always contains some dissolved air — is one way. Operating the system at too low a static pressure, or with the point of no pressure change on the outlet of a circulating pump, may result in portions of the system being below atmospheric pressure and then even a slight leak will allow air in (watch out for this one: vacuum leaks don't always leak under pressure!).

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England