Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.
If our community has helped you, please consider making a contribution to support this website. Thanks!

Low limit aquastat not calling for heat

Options
ericthor
ericthor Member Posts: 12
edited February 25 in Thermostats and Controls

I recently purchased a building with a 250.000 btu Slat Fin Galaxy cast iron gas fired boiler installed in 1994. during demolition of the building the low level aquastat was accidentally removed (it was located outside the mechanical room). When we went to fire up the boiler this winter it was apparent something was missing and a new Resideo model L4008A was installed along with a new temp/pressure gauge. Because the previous immersion probe was seized in the well tube and we didnt have a new one on hand, we installed the immersion probe to the side of the hot water supply line and wrapped with insulating tape. I have the high limit aquastat set to 180 and the low level set to 160 with a 20 degree differential. The boiler has never reached 180 and the low level aquastat never seems to call for heat when the water temp dips down, sometimes nesr 120 degrees.

THE BOILER ONLY FIRES WHEN THE THERMOSTAT CALLS FOR HEAT, NEVER WHEN LOW LEVEL TEMP DIPS BELOW DESIRED TEMP.

Im hoping the issue is becuase i have an immersion style aquastat probe not properly installed inside the well. however i still feel like the low level shouuld be calling for heat, even if its not accurate.

Comments

  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,502
    edited February 25

    The reverse setting on a dual aquastat is used to maintain temperature if the boiler has a coil inside to supply domestic hot water. The low side also shuts off the heat circulator from robbing the supply of hot water ..

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12

    there are 2 aquatats installed. one high limit and one low limit.

  • tcassano87
    tcassano87 Member Posts: 126
    edited February 25

    do you have a picture of how the aquastat itself is wired? If it’s wired to the bottom & top terminals then it’s shutting off at 160 and isn’t wired as a low limit, it’s wired as a high limit

    ethicalpaul
  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,502
    edited February 25

    What is the B aquastat wired to ? What happens if you jump out the B ?

    The B makes on temperature rise . It is not a low limit …

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
    edited February 25

    Im not following you, Im also not a mechanical guy so you have to speak in dummy terms… what do you mean by B? Are you referring to the external mount resideo?

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,514

    You may be in over your head. Be careful. Mad Dog

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
    edited February 25
  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996

    This photo is a picture of a Reverse Aquastat also known as a B aquastat. It appears to be new by the date code in the red box H2542. That indicates the 42nd week of 2025. So sometime in October that control was manufactured.

    Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 4.21.12 PM.png

    On the other side of the metal chassis (indicated by red arrows) is printed a model number that might be L4006BXXXX (with four numbers after it.). Is there a way to post those numbers so we can look up and know what that control is capable of

    From that photo I can tell you that it is connected by wires to a 24v. control circuit, but I can not tell you what it is connected to. That same metal chassis can be used for other Aquastat controls with very long probes that can measure the temperature from outside the building or from a room that is several feet away or from a pipe that is somewhere behind that wall the control is attached to. The probe might look like this:

    By the dial setting and the wire terminal designation I can tell you that the control pictured will turn on something when the temperature probe is at or above 160° and that the control will turn off that device when the temperature is at or below 155° if the control has a fixed differential of 5°. If you are expecting that control to turn on a boiler when the boilere temperature is below 160°, You selected the incorrect control.

    Here is the terminal designation of the L4006 and L6006 controls. W at the top R in the middle and B at the bottom.

    Screenshot 2025-10-27 at 1.09.08 PM.png

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
    IMG_0984.JPG

    ok the "B" aquastat (pictured) is mounted outside the mechanical room with the temp probe passing through the wall and connected to the hot water supply pipe.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996
    edited February 25

    OK that control os a operation control that will power on a control if the temperature at the probe is lower than the set point of the dial. That means that you should be able to use that to turn on a burner the burner should stop when the temperature exceeds the 160° set point and then the burner should start once the temperature drops to 155° if the differentia is set to 5°. That control has an adjustable differential from 5° to 30°

    To determine what is going wrong, can you show me where the other end of the red and white wire on that control are connected to?

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
    edited February 25

    if you scroll up you can see the photo i posted where the stat wires are labeled. "stat" being the thermostat and "Aqual L" being the low limit. that photo shows the high limit aquastat mounted behind the access panel on the boiler.

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,393

    What does it say on the inside of the cover? There's only 2 terminals, so its SPST. If it says "R-B opens on temperature rise" then you've got another High (A) Limit. You need a B Limit. An L6008B might work. You could also get an L6006C strap on if its feasible.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996

    This is your wiring diagram to the best I can see from the pictures:

    Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 6.36.53 PM.png

    There is no control that will operate a circulator. So I guess that is constant operation.   The operator or low limit, the high limit, all the other safety switches,  and the thermostat need to be closed (turned on) for the vent damper to operate.   Any one of them opening will keep the vent damper closed.   Once the vent damper is open and the end switch inside the vent damper closes to indicate the damper is open, then the gas valve will get power to operate the burner.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,393

    You've got 2 High limit controls.

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12
    edited 1:13AM

    Is there a more appropriate aquastat that will control the circulator?

  • ericthor
    ericthor Member Posts: 12

    I can feel the current low level aquastat click when i move the dial and it hits what it thinks the boiler temp is at. it also clicks accordingly to how i set the variation dial. currently the low level was set to 160 and the temp gauge was showing 120. I increased the low level up to 200 and the flame kicks on heating the boiler temp to 145-150 then shuts off.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996

    I believe that is proper usage of that L4008A to be an operator. So you have an operator and a high limit. That is no problem. (Yes @HVACNUT he has 2 high limits).

    There is no better Aquastat control for operating the circulator. If you don't want to have your circulator operate all the time, then you need a circulator relay. Are there any other controls that you have not posted a picture?

    There are relays that the thermostat can operate to turn on the circulator and the burner. That way the circulator only operates when there is a call for heat from the thermostat. Do you want me to send you the info for the control you need, and the wiring diagram that will work for you?

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 20,063

    if you are using the Honeywell control to start the circulator it will not work for that. The control you have is a L4008A is a direct acting high limit. It opens the circuit on a temp rise.

    You need a reverse acting control that closes the circuit on a temp rise if you are controlling the circulator with it as @HVACNUT said

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996

    @ericthor said: "I can feel the current low level aquastat click when i move the dial and it hits what it thinks the boiler temp is at. it also clicks accordingly to how i set the variation dial. currently the low level was set to 160 and the temp gauge was showing 120. I increased the low level up to 200 and the flame kicks on heating the boiler temp to 145-150 then shuts off."

    You need to be careful with reading the temperatures with the way you have the system wired up. The thermometer that tells you the boiler temperature is 145° is 50° different from the temperature setting at the control. That tells me three things.

    • The water temperature at the thermometer and the water temperature at the pipe where the operating control is different.
    • The control is not accurately reading the correct temperature
    • The boiler thermometer is not accurately reading the correct temperature.

    Or a combination of all three. So BE CAREFUL with your adjustments. If you are setting the control on the pipe to 200° and that is the most accurate control because it is the newest part on the system, and the boiler temperature is actually over 200° but the thermometer is not correct, you may end up using more fuel than you need to… or …over heating the boiler and the relief valve discharges… or …worse.

    When professionals do service calls and this happens, we have a "Known Good" accurate thermometer to check the temperatures at the different boiler locations to see which device is accurate and which device is out of calibration.  That way we don't make any dangerous mistakes.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,996

    This is the diagram that will get you operating the circulator with the thermostat.

    Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 4.56.50 Pn.jpg

    This is the same diagram as before with a General Purpose relay added. WR 90-130 Fan Center is a little less expensive than the Honeywell in the diagram and the wire colors may be different, but the diagram is identical.

    First: Turn off power

    There are 2 sets of relay contacts including a transformer on the same electric box plate, so you can remove the existing transformer and replace it with the new combination transformer/relay. The C terminal and the R terminal will stay the same. Just take all the wires from the C and put them back on the C and take all the wires off of the R and place them back on the R. Then connect the Black and White 120 VAC wires in the same way, and you should have exactly the same set up. Test that this works for you as it did with the old transformer and verify that the system operates the same as it did before.

    Now turn off the power again and remove the thermostat from the system and just put the wires from the wires from the Low limit and the High limit that are left behind and connect them together.

    Connect the R wire from the thermostat to the R on the transformer

    Connect the W from the thermostat to the G on the transformer. Now when the thermostat calls for heat the relay will pull in and close the relay switch contacts closed (turned on). See how that completes a circuit from R on the transformer to R on the thermostat to W on the thermostat the G on the transformer to the Relay coil on the transformer to C on the transformer to make a complete circuit?

    Remove the R wire from the transformer that goes to the spill switch should be connected to the violet wire on the relay and the red/yel wire on the relay should be connected to R on the transformer.

    Once you have all those wires connected you can take the 120 v. Black wire from the circulator motor and connect it to the Black wire on the relay. Take the Red wire on the relay and connect it to the place you removed the black wire of the circulator from.

    That should complete the rewiring.

    Power up and test. Make sure all the limits stop the burner when there is a call for heat. You don't want to have the flame continue to burn if there is a problem with flue gas spilling, or the water getting too hot.

    If this sounds too involved, then get a professional to do this for you.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?