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Getting rid of the old boiler sections

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GW
GW Member Posts: 5,133

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It’s at least a couple decades since I’ve removed one of these hogs.


59 inches tall 36 inches wide, very heavy. It’s not looking good to get them out unless we break them.

cutting torch the only way to do this or is anybody have any other ideas?

Unfortunately we have to go up a flight of (working) stairs

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Gary Wilson
Wilson Services, Inc
Northampton, MA
gary@wilsonph.com

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,067

    Or a sledgehammer. Or hire movers to deal with it.

    GWethicalpaul
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,157

    Hand truck. 2 guys up top, 2 guys on the bottom.

    GWSTEAM DOCTORclammy
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133

    Hand Truck, it’s a little sketch because a little bit of movement in the section will flop to the the left, the front and rear section must be 500- 700 pounds. I’m guessing

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,172

    Hand truck and 4 guys. Or cut 1/2 way through with angle grinder the hit with a sledge hammer.

    Can you hang a chain fall at the top of the stairs. Cut a hole in the plaster or drywall. Drill a joist with an angle drill and push a piece of 3/8 wire rope through the hole and put wire rope clips on it.

    If the stairs are not too steep and the stairs are straight outside you can hook a come along or a winch to a truck. Make a trough of 2 x8s or 2 x10s and nail some sheet metal to the bottom with flat heat roofing nails and winch them out on edge.

    another way is to lay 2 x6s on stairs and lay the sections on them flat. Pull them up the sections will dig into the 2 x 6s and the whole works will slide out.

    I have done Smith 28s where the F & B sections are 800#. Those Burnhams are smaller probably 500# each

    Cutting torch is NG on cast iron won't work.

    GW
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,157

    Any turns on the stairs? Open underneath? Can you add 2x4 supports, Hand truck and rope it? I've had to split many boilers to get them out, but I've never had to smash the cast iron. I have however been in a few basements where the old behemoth was just moved into a corner.

    GWreggiEdTheHeaterMan
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,067

    like that this old house where they go in to the basement and there's like 5 water heaters

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • DanielDAY
    DanielDAY Member Posts: 25

    If you can, buy a nice heavy duty dolly. If the stairs are able, put a heavy duty ramp on them and with a few people go up the ramp with the extra help. If you have to take a brake on the ramp, have some one closely watching and shove wood under a wheel to stop it in its location while the person holds it. I’ve done this at a school with a bad dolly and a sketchy ramp situation. More people is always better.


    other than that there’s no easy way about getting those sections out unless there’s easy access to the outdoors (like no stairs)

    GW
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,361

    If there's a little "room" in the job, Sub it out. You and your guys spinal discs will thank you down the road. Mad Dog

    sdodderBig Ed_4GWEdTheHeaterMan
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,795

    Cut them into "small" pieces. Cut them in a method of your choice and load them to the scrap yard. Or, even better, see if you can have a "scrapper" take them for you. Depending on your area, scrapers might want the whole load.

    GW
  • dandub1960
    dandub1960 Member Posts: 50

    Scrapper came right down to the basement to haul away sections of my old Burham 5B, including two buckets of rust chips from the collapsing pedestal. Not sure if he got money for the chips or just did us a favor. That said the boiler sections were (only) 150 lbs each.

    Steward to 1923 Spanish revival near Chicago - 2 pipe steam 650 EDR shiny new Peerless 63-06

    GW
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133

    old school labor, we got it all out. I’ll post some pictures once I clean the soot off my face and put some food in my head.

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    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    Intplm.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133
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    a combination of cutting with the diamond wheel, a little sawzall action with the expensive Diablo blade, some old school sledgehammering.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    mattmia2PC7060
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133

    @HVACNUT yes these sections were pretty big.

    we normally haul all the metal stuff back to our shop, and then hand it over to our Scrap guy.

    This was a unique situation, larger than average rip out for us.

    This job is going directly to the scrap yard. we don’t have time to hand it over to the Scrap guy, it’s coming off our truck just once- the Scrap guy will lead our help load it into his truck.

    Plus, I’m dying see what the weight is, I’m gonna guess 2200 pounds


    we packed everything in the pick up truck minus the front section. We did haul it outside, but the pick up truck was starting to sag. We probably should not have loaded those water heaters, oh well


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    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    HVACNUT
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133

    @EBEBRATT-Ed seems like you’ve moved some heavy stuff in your day!

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,172

    @GW

    LOL that's why I am in the shape I am in. Bad shoulders, bad neck.

    I think your 2200lbs is probably spot on

    Looks like you had a set of narrow nasty steps to deal with. They look solid though.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,067

    or at least new. 50/50 on if they're solid

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,157

    Yeah that's a tough one.

  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,535

    That was really a beast from the east. Around here those sections would be repurposed into moorings out in Quincy bay.

    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
    CLamb
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,133

    2400 lbs! We specifically dropped off the boiler by itself. Two trips. The front section was 700 lbs


    $168 for all that work😫

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    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    mattmia2
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,172

    $.07/pound. Back in the 70s when I started we got $.01/pound.

    You got enough to by the crew breakfast, that's about it.

    GW