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Why Your Classroom Unit Ventilator Blows Cold Air and Why Thats Normal, this weeks video

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RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,880
edited October 24 in THE MAIN WALL

The unit ventilator or univent is one of the most confused hated components in a heating system. Hope you enjoy it.

Ray Wohlfarth
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  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,750

    Interesting video. I can see why teacher wouldn’t like it; 55-60 incoming air would be unpleasant. The unit you showed around 3/4 point looks like it’s had a rough life!

  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,880

    @PC7060 Most univents in old schools are original Thanks

    Ray Wohlfarth
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    PC7060
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,288

    Usually, they pile books and papers on top of the UV which blocks the airflow then they wonder why they have no heat.

  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,880

    @EBEBRATT-Ed All the time

    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,705

    In theory, a univent is a wonderful thing — when it's working properly as described. Except for that decidedly cool draught. And having been on both sides of the equation, I can't say that I was happy with the cool draught when I was teaching in spaces with univents…

    But, they are cheap to install and relatively efficient.

    Really old schools — and I had some to deal with in Vermont — had steam radiators on the walls. Nice and cozy and warm. Ventilation (these were farming communities, and you do need ventilation!) was provided by air outlet grilles in each room which went into a flue which extended through the roof — that pulled the stale air out quite nicely, and infiltration through the windows was the makeup air. Many times those flues had radiators in the bottom to help increase the draught.

    Efficiency was… um… poor. But they worked.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
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  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,880

    @Jamie Hall I have seen a few of those and they worked well when fuel costs were not a problem

    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • RascalOrnery
    RascalOrnery Member Posts: 116

    Wow so interesting and informative! Are these units usually only installed where high room occupancy is a factor? Does it ever not blow any air? I guess I was a little confused as to when it's done venting even if the thermostat is met.

  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 4,167

    The ones I'm responsible for have thermostats on the steam pipe, the blower only comes on when steam is up. (I imagine they just opened a window for ventilation if steam wasn't up.) They also have discharge air thermostats to temper the leaving air if it got to be too cold, to avoid freezing the coils.

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,705

    In many school situations, @RascalOrnery , room occupancy and air exchange rate is the governing design factor. To go back to that Vermont experience I mentioned, when the Arab oil embargo hit and everyone got their pants in a twist about saving energy, a lot of those ventirlator shafts were blocked up. The result was a public health catastrophe among children and teachers… Can't say we didn't warn them, but…

    Ever since then I've been a fanatic about air exchange rate!

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England