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Boiler Sizing

Nater2003
Nater2003 Member Posts: 2

I'm new to sizing steam boilers. I'm working on bidding a project to replace a oil steam boiler with a propane steam boiler. I can not find the EDR on the old boiler. I did the sq. ft of all the radiators and added for the piping loss. Based on the EDR that I calculated the BTU is 200,000 less than what is currently firing. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,036

    If you've added up the square foot EDR of all the radiators, that's the figure you want for the boiler. The boiler rating may say EDR, or may say square feet of steam. That's it. Not more calculation is needed.

    Not a bit surprised that the existing boiler is bigger — perhaps much bigger. A common error. Don't do it.

    Try to hit the total radiation EDR with the boiler rating — or up to 10 percent smaller. Don't oveersize.

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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,287

    What Jamie said and…

    if you have a 2 pipe steam system, the proper boiler size required may be even smaller, depending on the system.

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  • bburd
    bburd Member Posts: 1,162
    edited May 28

    And… do not add to the square footage of radiation for the piping loss. The boiler square-foot rating includes a 30% piping and pick up factor, which many of us here think is too large for most systems.

    Just match the square feet of radiation to the steam square foot rating on the boiler.


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  • Nater2003
    Nater2003 Member Posts: 2

    The old boiler also has two domestic coils. Any input on sizing BTU to domestic coils?

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,036

    Domestic hot water? No increase needed. I suppose in rare circumstances — such as, perhaps, a commercial laundry (not a laundromat!) you might want to check the actual increased BTU demand. But in general, no increase needed.

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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,511

    As mentioned by @Jamie Hall, @The Steam Whisperer, and @bburd. Do not try to get smart with converting square feet of steam or EDR to BTUs. It is a fools errand and will have lots of room for error. BTU Input, BTU Capacity, BTU Gross Output and Net BTU ratings are all different for each boiler. Understanding which one to use is confusing so don't even try.

    Take the EDR from your radiator count and select the boiler based on Sq Ft Steam rating of the replacement boiler.

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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,884

    The person before you did their job very wrong, don't second guess yourself based on that.

    Size to the system EDR. What boiler is currently there is 100% irrelevant.

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