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Wiring Diagrams and Relays.

Jalen_Jalen2006
Jalen_Jalen2006 Member Posts: 66

my coworker has been helping me with schematics and giving me prompts to try and create them. This one I am stuck, I have to heat 3 indirect heaters off of 1 circulator pump. I am genuinely confused how the hell do I turn on the pump? I don’t know why electrical for me is so daunting at times. What device do I use so that when the aquastat makes it opens the zone valve and starts the pump.

Thank you for your help.

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  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,893
    edited April 1

    the tstat calls for a zone

    The zone valve opens and The end switch closes and starts the boiler

    An aqua-stat senses hot water and starts the circulator.

  • Jalen_Jalen2006
    Jalen_Jalen2006 Member Posts: 66

    that makes sense practically. This usually is all done via the zone valve control board or so. Though for this schematic I’m assuming the aquastat would make an end switch that brings on the pump.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,893

    then you’ll circulate cold water. But it can be done.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,342
    edited April 1

    This is a simple "take it one at a time" exercise.

    Forget the zone valves for now. The First step is to determine how the circulator operates if there was only one thermostat in the system like a one zone house radiator system. That is usually built into the heater itself. Here is the Weil McLain simple diagram that turns on the burner (Green) and the circulator pump (Blue) with the call for heat from the thermostat (Red)

    Here's one for an oil burner combination aquastat relay.

    See how the thermostat (Red) operates both the burner (Green) thru the limit and the circulator pump (Blue) to move the water thru the system?   Easy Peasy!


    Now lets look at a zone valve manufacturer's diagram

    See how the thermostat (in your case the water heater aquastat) turns on the zone valve?   Once the zone valve is open the end switch closes and will send the thermostat call for heat to the boiler control.  You don't need a relay to do that.  The zone valve end switch is all you need to operate the burner and the circulator.

    Here is your diagram if you have Honeywell V8043 type zone valves

    Hope this diagram helps

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,342
    edited April 2

    Oh that is too much. A thousand thanks will be just fine! I will send you my Venmo account info in a PM.

    Just take wiring diagrams one small part at a time. One circuit at a time. Make the complete circuit from the power source, the the load and the return path back to the power source. All thise switches and contacts on the way are just on and off switches to make the load operate or stop the load from operating. In a zone valve with an end switch there are two circuits. The one from the transformer to the thermostat to the valve motor and return path to the transformer. The other circuit has the source somewhere else, like the heater for example. The end switch is just one of the contacts that open or close to make the heater operate.

    Take each step one at a time and the wiring diagrams get easy.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Robert_Hratio
  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,952

    @EdTheHeaterMan said it right: "Take each step one at a time and the wiring diagrams get easy."

    Break the schematics down into smaller pieces & follow the current with your finger. We don't do complicated things, just busy things.

    Jalen_Jalen2006
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,845
    edited April 4
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Jalen_Jalen2006