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Gas fired boiler no heat

Doegirl
Doegirl Member Posts: 12

I have a old gas fired weil-mclain boiler my thermostat was all the way down "off" during storms with 70mph & brief power glitch I tried turning the heat up but no heat but I could hear it kicked on I checked it no pilot and a clicking sound

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  • tcassano87
    tcassano87 Member Posts: 80

    have you tried hitting the spill switch on the vent?

    Have you tried relighting the pilot?
    Is it a continuous click while it’s calling for heat? Clicking could be coming from the a bad gas valve which could also explain why your pilot is out

    Doegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    I shut off the gas and electricity because i was sure what happened

  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12
    edited March 25

    Sorry new to forums my fiance took care of all this but unfortunately he passed away I didn't know if it was safe to light etc I seen that green wire wasn't sure

  • tcassano87
    tcassano87 Member Posts: 80

    sounds like it is something you are unfamiliar with and not comfortable touching which is fine. My suggestion would be to have someone qualified to come look at it if that’s the case.

    Can even post where you live and there may be someone on here close by or someone who can be recommended too you that you can trust

    delcrossvDoegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    Ty for replying I appreciate it I'm on this forum because I have no other options to get someone to help

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,569

    @Doegirl There should be some directions on the side of your unit that you can follow to light the pilot and start the burner. Are they there or have they been removed?

    Doegirl
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,669
    edited March 25

    If you shut off the gas, then you need to light the pilot. There should be step by step instructions right on the inside of the door you removed. Got a BBQ lighter?

    Doegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    In the pictures there's a loose C wire from the fan relay I wasn't sure if that's a problem or if it's supposed to be disconnected I shut of the electrical breaker & the square d fuse box switch on the side of the boiler & the gas to the boiler I have a bbq lighter I was leary of trying to light it without knowing if the forked spade green C wire should be connected to anything

  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Got to ask. How do you know that the pilot is out? There is a metal plate that typically needs to be removed to see the pilot. Seems like it's still in place.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,182

    Is the green wire connected to the "c" terminal? It probably bonded one side of the transformer to ground before the wiring was um….reworked.

    Doegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    Yes it's on the C fan relay I figured it was a ground that hooked on a screw

  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    I looked through hole

  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Where are you located? Maybe we can find a benevolent soul. I really don't think that you should be doing these things yourself. There's an awful lot of risk involved. That wire has nothing to do with the pilot light.

    PeteA
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,569

    So you turned off the gas and power at an earlier time. Your system probably has a standing pilot and you will need to light it.

    Do you smell gas? If you do, turn the gas off at the boiler.

    Do you have directions on the side of the boiler? If so, you will need to re-light the pilot light using the directions. Read the direction and be careful.

    If the pilot is hard to reach, In the past I have talked some homeowners through the procedure via the phone. A trick is to us a length of pasta. Its longer than a match or lighter and should reach. Light one end of the spaghetti while following all the safety precautions supplied with the directions.

    If you are not comfortable with doing this, its time to call a pro.

    PeteA
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 3,017

    today I learned, spaghetti is flammable

    known to beat dead horses
    Intplm.Long Beach Ed
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Never met a pilot, that could not be reached with a BBQ lighter.

    Intplm.
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,569
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Just tried the spaghetti. Does work. Not great but will work in a pinch. My poor wife.... didn't quite know what she was getting into!!!

    mattmia2
  • Bernie_the_Brewer
    Bernie_the_Brewer Member Posts: 13

    Mine requires a 13" reach through a small hole. I use a "fireplace match" with an extension!

    Trying to keep Bernie burning!

  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,780

    Hi, I wouldn't be surprised if someone here would be willing to use something like Facetime to walk you through the process of figuring it out. Most important is staying safe. I like having tools around. A simple analog volt-ohm meter is probably under $20 and if you had one, it would make the troubleshooting process safer and go better. Then you would get to have this nifty tool to keep and show off! Just a thought. 😊

    Yours, Larry

    Doegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    Thanks foe the reply Larry, I have a new digital multimeter my fiance bought before he died but not a analog one & no I've never used one I didn't know if it was a simple fix or the wire got blown off by high winds coming down the chimney I can light the pilot "doesn't need spaghetti" I have my daughter here & wasn't going to risk frying anything or setting it on fire if something got disconnected etc Thanks for your suggestion & reply

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,669

    You said you shut off the gas. How did the pilot light itself?

    Is the arm on the vent damper vertical or horizontal?

  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,563

    Reading these posts, are we sure the boiler has a standing pilot? My first thought was that it was an intermittent pilot and the clicking noise was the pilot flame not igniting.

    Grallert
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Look at the pictures in the first post. Clearly a standing pilot. Thermocouple is visible

    Intplm.HVACNUTDoegirlSuperTech
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    My guess is from 75-80 mph wind gust and a power glitch

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,371

    That loose wire was purposely taped back some time ago, I don't believe it is part of your problem.

    You must get the pilot lite before anything can proceed.

    Your pressure gauge shows very little water pressure in the boiler. It should read 12-15 PSI. You need to add water to the system.

    Did you ever state where you are located……just city & state. ??

    Doegirl
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    Ok so I lit the pilot but it wont stay lit after releasing the reset button I noticed the spill switch is tripped as well

  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    I'm in illinois

  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320

    Might need a new thermocouple. Maybe. I am assuming that you help the button for 60 seconds after lighting ?

    mattmia2
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,320
    edited March 28

    How did you determine that the spill switch is tripped?

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,050
    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • Doegirl
    Doegirl Member Posts: 12

    Downstate I'm a hour south of Springfield il

    delcrossv
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,569

    Keep trying. Release the depressed pilot button as if you are in slow motion. Sometimes you need a few tries before it will light. Again…slowly.

    Doegirl
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,182

    If the button doesn't stay in after holding it for a minute or so most likely the thermocouple is bad, mispositioned, or the pilot burner is mispositioned, dirty, or needs adjustment. It could be a bad gas valve but that is like 1/100 in the possibilities.

    delcrossvSTEAM DOCTORneilc
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,569
    edited March 28

    Agreed, but if the inexperienced OP goes too quickly and flicks the button up as soon as the pilot lights the flame can easily go out. Holding for a few seconds or longer and slowly lifting off the button as it rises is a good practice for someone who doesn't light a pilot often. Then they can turn it from the pilot selection to inservice as the pilot stays lighted.

    HVACNUT
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,182

    It needs to heat the thermocouple and that takes some time. i haven't owned anything standing pilot in a long time but it would give it a count to 60 or so when i did.

    bburdLRCCBJHVACNUTdelcrossv