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What boiler service tools do you carry with you?

RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,702

Im working on a new video and am curious what tools do you take with you on a boiler service call. I have the following list and curious if you have additional tools:

Small cordless screw driver to adjust the pressure temperature control

Combustion analyzer

Purge timer for Honeywell 7800 flame safeguard

Honeywell 7800 digital read out

Wireless voltage detector

Ir temperature gun

Flir camera for diagnosing radiant heat projects

Gauge glass cutter

Gauge glass brush

Gauge glass fittings

Gas leak detector

Digital multimeter

Ampmeter

Screwdriver set including star bits

Pressure gauge manometer

Pipe size caliper

Ruler for measuring electrode setting

tape measure to size flue or pipe diameter

Differential temperature

Inspection mirror or camera

Kneeling pad

Ray Wohlfarth
Boiler Lessons

Comments

  • MikeL_2
    MikeL_2 Member Posts: 524

    I'll add:

    Personal CO detector.

    Headband flash light.

    Alligator clip jumper wire with 24 volt reset breaker.

    Transfer pump & double end hoses.

    N95 masks.

    Assorted pails.

    Coverall jump suit.

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,619

    This is pretty much what I carry into every service call. I left my linesman pliers in Southampton so I have an empty pocket. Once I scope it out, I'll run to the van if needed.

  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 948

    Allen keys, standard and metric

    Nutdriver, must include 1/4" and 5/16" larger can be helpful too.

    Pocket screwdriver.

    Small and medium adjustable wrenches.

    I could go on, but I think you may be focused on diagnostic tools and not really hand tools.

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,357

    Bucket with seat, sit down and observe.

    Larry WeingartenLong Beach EdHVACNUTbjohnhy
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,702

    thank you all I appreciate your help and suggestions

    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,682
    edited February 23

    Since we usually remove and clean cutoff probes and pigtails:

    Some simple wiring tools…

    • Wire cutter and stripper
    • terminals/wire nuts
    • zip ties
    • electrical tape
    • couple of feet of 18ga wire.

    Something to poke crud out of pigtails…

    • big zip tie &/or stiff wire

    Reassembly tools…

    • Teflon pipe dope
    • small wire brush

    And for where all else fails:

    • Small Vise-grip

    If we carry our drill/driver we have a circular wire brush in the case.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,938

    I do av but i really like the klein 11 in one screwdriver.
    it has #1 and #2 phillips, 2 sizes straight blade, 2 torx sizes, 2 robertson sizes, and the barrel and adapters are a number of sizes of nutdriver.
    you can take the barrel out and spin it between your fingers for long fasteners that tun relatively freely
    you can use an adjustable wrench and the inserts with the bit in them to use it like a right angle screwdriver

    obviously you will still need a long #2 phillips and a long straight blade to reach especially some fasteners in recesses.

    i think after decades of working on cars i've learned a lot of creative ways to reach fasteners in weird places

    trouble light type light that takes the same batteries as my codless tools.

    I also have reached an age where i need a milk crate or bucket to sit on down low.

    Long Beach Ed
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,771

    for service a basic tool bag / pouch / belt.

  • techforlife
    techforlife Member Posts: 106

    Don't forget the BOOTIES!

  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,702

    Thank you all. These are all great ideas and I appreciate it

    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,213

    open eyes and a open mind for starters

    6 n 1 screw drive

    1/4 deep socket set

    fluke multi meter

    assorted hand tools

    Flash light

    finally a pair of eye glasses

    a working knowledge of the sequence of operations for the equipment you are servicing and knowing the safety devices which may be at fault

    A good grip on the workings of controls ,opposite potentials,time delays ,flow switches ,magnetic starters voltage and over current, phase monitoring controls and how not to let the smoke out of a new control .

    Being truthful and not broad brushing existing issues which may not be ideal but are not the root cause of the existing issue .

    Only work on equipment which you are qualified and comfortable working on and being smart enough to known when your in over your head.

    Knowing how a system should properly operate and when it is time for regular maintenance or that said maintenance has been deferred which is the underlying issue

    And also have a possibly older smarter tech which when having a rough time you can call on for some intelligence discussion with about your issue .

    Never be afraid to admit that your at a lose .

    Honestest is always the best policy

    peace and good luck clammy

    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

    Graham_2024Larry Weingarten
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,489
    edited February 24

    We use those, but I like this one more.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFMHQCP?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_7

    It has the funky driver that fits most electrical receptacles etc as a combination square / flat head drive.

    If I needed one driver to service boilers etc, I'd probably pick that one.

    Besides that, this one comes in handy for small stuff

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EOY7LTA?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_8

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,456

    Yours looks like mine. It's getting heavy. I need to find another way.

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,456

    What service tools do I carry? A good pair of knee pads.

    If I new then what I know now, I would have worn them as if they were another pair of shoes. My knees would have thanked me for it.

    A pad for your knees doesn't quite make the grade. All too often in the course of my work, I would move one or both knees off of the pad. Knee pads go where your knees go. Jokes be damned. 🙂

    pecmsgclammyAlan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,938

    what is "opposite potentials"?

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,234

    My certificate from the School of Hard Knocks, long with my diploma from the College of Common Sense

    You won't believe how many forget these important tools.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Larry WeingartenIntplm.CLamb
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,938

    i like the one i posted because the shaft pulls out and i can use it like the second one you posted for a lot of things.

    i haven't found a version of a precision screwdriver i like better than the one i got free at a trade show about a decade ago. the barrel is a single aluminum piece so it is thick enough it won't stab through your pocket and the barrel has a cap on the end that stores the bits. i bought an assortment of whia bits for it.

    something like this. i don't know if there is a brand name version:

  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,213

    Opposite potential is what makes relays pull in . Without a opposite potential no work gets done . It is what pulls in relays and completes a circuit without which the work or job that needs to be done does not happen and say a call for heating /cooling /indirect tank or boiler does not operate . I guess it's my way to visualize things and figure out electrical issues . A real easy way to think about it is your r and w terminals on a t stat ,that w terminal is the same as the r terminal on your control without the c side of the transformer on the circ/burner circuit relay the relay would not pull in . Same goes for 110 volts without the neutral it dont work .

    To myself there nothing to assume when doing a service call weather its a boiler,split system or roof top you have to show up have some tools a meter for sure and open mind and eyes and have a handle some basic electrical concepts and how things are suppose to work .

    peace and good luck clammy

    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

    Larry Weingarten
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,234

    @clammy has an interesting tool proposal. "Opposite Potential", which is to say that "similar potential" or "opposite impossibility" might be tools that his counterpart might bring to the table. That is not to say that "Similar Impossibility" might not also be considered another tool. This is all based on the theory that "opposites attract", which in turn causes "similars to repel". Although since I have been stuck in this wheelchair, I have not had the opportunity to Repel down the side of a mountain, or climb a mountain for that matter,   ...but that is a story for another day, today we need to purchase a steamer trunk to use as a tool pouch in order to carry all these new tools to @RayWohlfarth’s next boiler service call. along with @ethicalpaul 's video equipment in order to document how each and every tool was used in order to figure out that someone just left the switch turned off.  

    This is what happens to you when you retire and have nothing better to do!!! Nonsensical ramblings.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    ethicalpaulIntplm.CLamb
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,747

    But @EdTheHeaterMan , It's fun nonsense 😏

    Yours, Larry

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • mikespipe
    mikespipe Member Posts: 46

    rollout switches and , spill switches, and thermocouples and cad eyes

  • Sootmaster
    Sootmaster Member Posts: 34

    Keep it Simple Simon

    Meter, 6 in 1, and flash light

    Evaluate, explain, and then bring in the heavy stuff as needed

  • Powe
    Powe Member Posts: 35
    edited February 28

    @RayWohlfarth, Thanks for starting this thread! It makes you think on an organization level, rather than just reactionary thinking. I am not an hvac tech, but I do some basic annual maintenance on my rental properties and I like to have dedicated tool cases for various types of work, so this is right up my alley!!!

    I have taken all the suggestions here, divided them by categories that make sense (to me at least) and here is the "master list" for what it's worth!

    Safety Gear

    • Eye protection /Safety prescription glasses if applicable
    • Dust mask (N95 minimum) / Respirator
    • Personal / Portable CO detector
    • Gas leak detector
    • Coverall jump suit
    • Camera (phone is more than adequate) (to document original condition for liability protection)

    Testing Tools

    • Combustion analyzer
    • Purge timer for Honeywell 7800 flame safeguard
    • Honeywell 7800 digital read out
    • Digital multimeter
    • Alligator clip jumper wire with 24 volt reset breaker
    • Several alligator clip jumpers
    • Ampmeter
    • IR temperature gun
    • Flir camera for diagnosing radiant heat projects
    • Differential temperature


    Standard Tools (and supplies)

    • Small cordless screw driver to adjust the pressure temperature control
    • Wireless voltage detector
    • Screwdriver set including star bits / Klein 11 in one screwdriver
    • Ruler (for measuring electrode setting)
    • Tape measure to size flue or pipe diameter
    • Inspection mirror or camera
    • Flash light / Headband flash light
    • Big Flood/Trouble light (uses same battery as cordless tools)
    • Allen keys, standard and metric
    • Nutdriver, must include 1/4" and 5/16" larger can be helpful too
    • Pocket screwdriver
    • Small and medium adjustable wrenches
    • Wire cutter and stripper
    • Small wire brush
    • Small Vise-grip (for where all else fails)
    • Circular wire brush in the case (If we carry our drill/driver)


    Boiler Specific Tools

    • Gauge glass cutter
    • Gauge glass brush
    • Gauge glass fittings
    • Pressure gauge manometer
    • Pipe size caliper


    Supplies and Miscellaneous (separate carry boxes/toolcases)

    • Transfer pump & double end hoses
    • Assorted pails
    • terminals/wire nuts
    • Zip ties
    • Electrical tape
    • Teflon pipe dope
    • Kneeling pad
    • Bucket with seat, sit down and observe
    • rollout switches and , spill switches, and thermocouples and cad eyes
    • spare pigtail(s) brass fittings, glass gauge nuts, washers and gaskets etc.
    Single pipe steam
    Weil-McLain EG/PEG -50
    175K/145K in/out (454 sf)
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,938

    Is the cordless screwdriver just for dealing with the multi turn screw that raises and lower the pointer in pressuretrols and a few other controls?

    I like this type of screwdriver for dealing with rack screws and other long screws where I can carry it in my tools without carrying power tools too:

  • Lance
    Lance Member Posts: 321

    I take my well equipped truck, and my most important tool, a well educated, experienced brain with a well practiced set of skills. What I carry in is a matter of my usual pouch of tools mainly to access and diagnose based on prior information given. Another most important tool is my pen and pencil and service order. Can't get authorized, record data or get paid without it. Needs no batteries and works with and without light. Works everywhere. And my young apprentice who needs to look smart and stay fit, carries all the tools he may never use.

    I have been known to diagnose correctly what others miss without anything. But then clients that don't know me begin to doubt my ability.😉

    bjohnhy
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,456

    THIS !!!!! because if you know? You know.