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Taco Zone Valve hack?

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So, I bone-headedly ordered normally open valves instead of normally closed. Does anyone know if there is a jumper or some sort of quick hack to swap the valve actuator head from normally open to normally closed?

Thanks,

Hasty-order-button-clicker

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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    Nope. Can't you return them, or did you already install them?

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  • SteveSan
    SteveSan Member Posts: 287
    Unfortunately there isn't a quick fix to change from n/o to n/c. If you ever have a question on a Taco product please call 401-942-8000 just ask for Tech Support and any one of us can help you. We are here Mon-Fri 8am-5pm EST.
    Erin Holohan HaskellIntplm.
  • Dave H_2
    Dave H_2 Member Posts: 618
    @heritageproperties

    Sounds like you got your hands on the Zone Sentry.

    You don't have to replace the entire zone valve especially if the valve body is installed. You can get a new powerhead to change from normally open to normally closed.

    Dave H.

    Dave Holdorf

    Technical Training Manager - East

    Taco, Inc

    Intplm.mattmia2Mad Dog_2
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,833
    If I got this right the valve is open when there is no power to it and it closes when you power it. If thats how it works you can use a 90-340 relay and the power the valve through the NC contacts and tie the tstat to the relay coil and that will open the contacts and drop power to the valve.
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,918
    unclejohn said:

    If I got this right the valve is open when there is no power to it and it closes when you power it. If thats how it works you can use a 90-340 relay and the power the valve through the NC contacts and tie the tstat to the relay coil and that will open the contacts and drop power to the valve.


    RIB relays for around 10 bucks is an inexpensive way to do this.
    We use them when you have a valve that needs power to open and power to close.

    One issue with N.C valves is they end up powered for a lot of the year, probably shortens their life.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    EdTheHeaterManmattmia2
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,273
    Do yourself a favor... get the correct valve. if the manufacturer of that valve has a NC valve you may get off easy by just changing the guts without soldering the new valve body.

    Put the wrong guts on the unused valve body and sell them on eBay or Craig's list.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,918
    Most all ZV allow you to just swap actuators, be your best course of action
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    JakeCK
  • jacoblahr
    jacoblahr Member Posts: 1

    Can you reverse the wiring on the internal 24v motor?

  • HydronicMike
    HydronicMike Member Posts: 172

    6 year old thread.

    Don't you think if you could the manufacturer wouldn't just make them with a switch to change them between NO to NC?

    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 14,608

    that would require people to read the instructions.

  • Grallert
    Grallert Member Posts: 999

    I think it's a fair question and an opportunity to teach

    Miss Hall's School service mechanic, greenhouse manager, teacher, dog walker and designated driver

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,273
    edited September 30

    With DC wiring, it may be just that easy. With the 24 VAC control current normally used in HVAC controls, that may not be the case.   That's because the current travels in both directions at 60 cycles per second, so reversing the wires will cause the current flow in both directions at 60 cycles per second.  No difference.

    Another problem may be in the design of the actual valve.  If the valve has a spring to open and needs power to close, then reversing the wires on a motor will not change the fact that the spring will always open the valve when there is no power. The OP would need to change the design so the spring would close the valve and then power the valve to open it by reversing the motor direction.  Not so easy if you don't own a machine shop with all kinds of drills and lathes and a stock of different springs so you might find just the right one for that valve.

    But that was a fair question for @jacoblahr. Welcome to the forum. Be sure to read the rules by clicking at the top of the page or

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    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,582
    edited September 30

    even if DC it won’t work.

    power open spring closed

    Power closed spring open

    HydronicMike
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,273

    what about power open power close. White Rogers made this crazy thing.

    Screenshot 2025-09-30 at 3.46.59 PM.png

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    GGross
  • GGross
    GGross Member Posts: 1,650

    people hate that one Ed, careful that might be the joke that gets you banned! 😂

    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 14,608

    I believe it is a taco zone sentry so it is power open power close but it stores the energy for the deenergized direction in a capacitor. I bet it is changing the indexing of the drive gear by 90 degrees so it is turning the ball starting from the closed position instead of the open position.

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,582

    The OP asked about spring loaded valves.

    Power open closed are a different animal.

  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 7,081

    If you're asking if it matters which motor lead connects to 24 volts or Common, then no. The motor doesn't care.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,918

    OP mention Taco zone valves, does Taco sell a spring return ZV? I see the 555 thermal, and the capacitor discharge zone sentry?
    So the only Taco ZV with n.o. , n.c. Option would be the zone sentry

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,918

    I guess Taco does sell a motorized spring return valve. Looks a lot like some other brands😗

    I don’t see a n.o. Version offered?

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
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  • Kaos
    Kaos Member Posts: 758

    Generally big fan of random hacks, so took a quick look at a Taco valve.

    @jacoblahr is correct. The internal motor is DC and you can reverse the wires on it. There is no physical end of travel switch, look like the motor runs until a current limit is reached which is considered end of travel.

    The one issue with this type of hack is eventually somebody else will have to fix this. They will not know about what is inside the valve and replace it like for like creating a lot of headache. At minimum I would do a future a solid an include a tag on there about the mods.

    I've been slowly de-hacking my house heat specifically to avoid the above issue. These are hard enough to troubleshoot, adding extra complication is cost more than getting the right part.