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Radiator recycling

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ethicalpaul
ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
edited March 2019 in Strictly Steam
I got a new (to me) radiator from Craigslist a few weekends ago and thought I'd share:


First, cut off the union nut


2nd, apply force using a heavy object:


3rd, install where the old rotted out one was:


(It's got a nice scroll-like curly design on it)

4th, test out the IR iPhone camera I bought myself!



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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,973
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    Nice look with that camera.
    Looks like the craigslist purchase was a good one.

    Was this replacement for the one you had on your porch.
    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Yes, that one. I had a new 19” one, but it had way less EDR than I thought it would. This one splits the difference and is quite nice. It does tick when it heats up but I’ll take it
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  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
    edited March 2019
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    When your car has 220k miles and you don’t care anymore 😂


    And the new one with the tiny modern one
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    Intplm.SeanBeansLionA29
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    I bought two because I was right there and they both looked good. It was a 1900s gut, to get forced air and AC. I really can’t blame the guy.
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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,973
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    Hard core. Brother you need a bigger trunk .🙂
    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    That's an original Honda Insight. 2 seater hatchback with all aluminum frame and body. It weighs 1900 pounds :)
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    Intplm.
  • SuperJ
    SuperJ Member Posts: 609
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    I think those cars still have a cult following. It's probably going up in value if the body is good.
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Well it sure doesn't have any rust :D
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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,973
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    1999 Year ??
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    2006
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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,973
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    Wow. I managed to move five used water heaters in a little ford ranger once. Got a lot of looks going down the highway with all the tanks secured in the bed and cab.
    A two seater honda insight. Now that's some moving !
    ethicalpaul
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,530
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    Seatbelt?
    Retired and loving it.
    ethicalpaulSeanBeansGrallert
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    I probably should have, but I kept it nice and slow because I was bottoming out :lol:
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    Intplm.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,530
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    I'm shivering just thinking about it.
    Retired and loving it.
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Every time we step into a car we should shiver. 40,000 deaths per year in US alone 😬
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    CLamb
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,973
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    Man that would have been something. Glad there was no accident but imagine the head line. Injuries from flying radiator !

    Reminds of the time a Connecticut driver hit and killed a kangaroo on a road in Connecticut.
    Nice Rad. replacement by the way.
    ethicalpaul
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,215
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    Just one thing would make it better... a nice Marsh made in USA Radiator valve. I buy hundreds a year from NYRP.com in New York. They're made just outside Chicago and are packless.
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    ethicalpaul
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 1,973
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    > @The Steam Whisperer said:
    > Just one thing would make it better... a nice Marsh made in USA Radiator valve. I buy hundreds a year from NYRP.com in New York. They're made just outside Chicago and are packless.

    Wow. Those puppies ain't cheap. I work almost 100% residential. In my mind, radiators shouldn't have shutoff valves. Never a good reason to shutoff a radiator. The only reason that I even replace shutoff valves with new valves (instead of elbows and unions) is because aesthetics or because that's what homeowner wants. Not sure if packless is quite that beneficial if valve will never be closed and opened. Obviously, apartment buildings are a totally different creature.
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Honestly I just use it as an elbow with union. I couldn't find steam stuff at nyrp.com, just a healthcare site but I'll keep looking for Marsh
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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    Here you go @ethicalpaul :smile:
    https://www.nyrpcorp.com/heating-supplies-heating-repair-parts/marsh/
    ethicalpaul
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,215
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    We often come across the cheap ones leaking with 5 to 10 years..... they ain't so cheap then. I find the price to be pretty good.... they are about the only ones we use now for everything we work on.
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    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    Thanks! I’m going to repipe the riser run to my bedroom soon to get rid of that water-holding sag, to go from 1” to 1-1/4”, and to have the supply heat the inside of the house instead of the exterior wall cavity. I’ll try one then!
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  • gfrbrookline
    gfrbrookline Member Posts: 753
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    I just looked at the site and saw the California law reference. Can someone tell me how a bronze radiator floor valve in going to give me cancer.
  • Gsmith
    Gsmith Member Posts: 432
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    Try to avoid licking or gnawing on it 😊
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  • gfrbrookline
    gfrbrookline Member Posts: 753
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    I only lick it when it's hot, I want to see if it does the same thing as a flag pole in the winter, lol.
  • Phil53
    Phil53 Member Posts: 73
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    @The Steam Whisperer I'm in Aurora, so not far from Marsh in Elburn and they would sell a few to me direct. Since you're in Chicago and use a lot of them you might want to try buying direct. Elburn is just a few miles north of I-88 about an hour west of you.
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,215
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    Thanks Phil,

    I have bought some direct, and have even had a tech pick them up on occasion, but I can get them cheaper if I order through NYRP.....crazy but true!
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  • foresthillsjd
    foresthillsjd Member Posts: 114
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    ethicalpaul said:

    Yes, that one. I had a new 19” one, but it had way less EDR than I thought it would. This one splits the difference and is quite nice. It does tick when it heats up but I’ll take it

    When you say it had less EDR, do you mean that the EDR rating didn't seem to put out as much heat as an older style radiator with an equivalent EDR?
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
    edited March 2019
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    It didn't have a rating on AFSupply's web site (which was annoying) so I attempted to calculate it based on its physical dimensions. Edit: I went back and looked again, and there is some rating information on their spec sheet, but it's quite confusing. I think the rating table is erroneous--there's no rating for the 19" ones.

    But it was made with very small tubes and was just "wimpier" than any other radiator I have ever seen.

    My statement about it being less EDR was based on physical appearance in person and that it put out way less heat in practice. I still don't know what the rated EDR of it is.

    Here it is, it is very small. I wouldn't put it in anything larger than a small bathroom: https://www.afsupply.com/cast-iron-radiator-19-h-4-tubes-10-sections.html
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  • foresthillsjd
    foresthillsjd Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2019
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    @ethicalpaul What a coincidence, I ordered my radiators from AF Supply as well. The rating is on the sheet, but not in a straightforward way. In small letters underneath the 19" Height column, it says 1.6 sq ft EDR per section, so you just take the number of sections times 1.6 times 240 to convert it to BTU/hr. So a 10-section radiator is 10 x 1.6 x 240 = 4860 BTU/hr



    I think that's correct because the results match with the table provided by Governale for the same style radiator. Let me know the calculated rating compares to your old radiators.
    Governale Product Literature

  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,425
    edited March 2019
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    The EDR is actually mistakenly listed in inches below the column you circled @foresthillsjd. So a 4 section is 6.4 EDR not inches.
    ethicalpaul
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,849
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    And a 10-section like the one in the picture is 16 square feet EDR.
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  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,704
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    > @Danny Scully said:
    > The EDR is actually mistakenly listed in inches below the column you circled @ethicalpaul. So a 4 section is 6.4 EDR not inches.

    Yep I thought it was fouled up, but I didn’t circle it
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