Radiator recycling

ethicalpaul

I got a new (to me) radiator from Craigslist a few weekends ago and thought I'd share:


First, cut off the union nut


2nd, apply force using a heavy object:


3rd, install where the old rotted out one was:


(It's got a nice scroll-like curly design on it)

4th, test out the IR iPhone camera I bought myself!

Intplm.

Nice look with that camera.
Looks like the craigslist purchase was a good one.

Was this replacement for the one you had on your porch.

ethicalpaul

Yes, that one. I had a new 19” one, but it had way less EDR than I thought it would. This one splits the difference and is quite nice. It does tick when it heats up but I’ll take it

ethicalpaul

When your car has 220k miles and you don’t care anymore 😂


And the new one with the tiny modern one

ethicalpaul

I bought two because I was right there and they both looked good. It was a 1900s gut, to get forced air and AC. I really can’t blame the guy.

Intplm.

Hard core. Brother you need a bigger trunk .🙂

ethicalpaul

That's an original Honda Insight. 2 seater hatchback with all aluminum frame and body. It weighs 1900 pounds

SuperJ

I think those cars still have a cult following. It's probably going up in value if the body is good.

ethicalpaul

Well it sure doesn't have any rust

Intplm.

1999 Year ??

ethicalpaul

2006

Intplm.

Wow. I managed to move five used water heaters in a little ford ranger once. Got a lot of looks going down the highway with all the tanks secured in the bed and cab.
A two seater honda insight. Now that's some moving !

DanHolohan

Seatbelt?

ethicalpaul

I probably should have, but I kept it nice and slow because I was bottoming out

DanHolohan

I'm shivering just thinking about it.

ethicalpaul

Every time we step into a car we should shiver. 40,000 deaths per year in US alone 😬

Intplm.

Man that would have been something. Glad there was no accident but imagine the head line. Injuries from flying radiator !

Reminds of the time a Connecticut driver hit and killed a kangaroo on a road in Connecticut.
Nice Rad. replacement by the way.

The Steam Whisperer

Just one thing would make it better... a nice Marsh made in USA Radiator valve. I buy hundreds a year from NYRP.com in New York. They're made just outside Chicago and are packless.

STEAM DOCTOR

> @The Steam Whisperer said:
> Just one thing would make it better... a nice Marsh made in USA Radiator valve. I buy hundreds a year from NYRP.com in New York. They're made just outside Chicago and are packless.

Wow. Those puppies ain't cheap. I work almost 100% residential. In my mind, radiators shouldn't have shutoff valves. Never a good reason to shutoff a radiator. The only reason that I even replace shutoff valves with new valves (instead of elbows and unions) is because aesthetics or because that's what homeowner wants. Not sure if packless is quite that beneficial if valve will never be closed and opened. Obviously, apartment buildings are a totally different creature.

ethicalpaul

Honestly I just use it as an elbow with union. I couldn't find steam stuff at nyrp.com, just a healthcare site but I'll keep looking for Marsh

Fred

Here you go @ethicalpaul
https://www.nyrpcorp.com/heating-supplies-heating-repair-parts/marsh/

The Steam Whisperer

We often come across the cheap ones leaking with 5 to 10 years..... they ain't so cheap then. I find the price to be pretty good.... they are about the only ones we use now for everything we work on.

ethicalpaul

Thanks! I’m going to repipe the riser run to my bedroom soon to get rid of that water-holding sag, to go from 1” to 1-1/4”, and to have the supply heat the inside of the house instead of the exterior wall cavity. I’ll try one then!

gfrbrookline

I just looked at the site and saw the California law reference. Can someone tell me how a bronze radiator floor valve in going to give me cancer.

Gsmith

Try to avoid licking or gnawing on it 😊

gfrbrookline

I only lick it when it's hot, I want to see if it does the same thing as a flag pole in the winter, lol.

Phil53

@The Steam Whisperer I'm in Aurora, so not far from Marsh in Elburn and they would sell a few to me direct. Since you're in Chicago and use a lot of them you might want to try buying direct. Elburn is just a few miles north of I-88 about an hour west of you.

The Steam Whisperer

Thanks Phil,

I have bought some direct, and have even had a tech pick them up on occasion, but I can get them cheaper if I order through NYRP.....crazy but true!

foresthillsjd

ethicalpaul said:

Yes, that one. I had a new 19” one, but it had way less EDR than I thought it would. This one splits the difference and is quite nice. It does tick when it heats up but I’ll take it

When you say it had less EDR, do you mean that the EDR rating didn't seem to put out as much heat as an older style radiator with an equivalent EDR?

ethicalpaul

It didn't have a rating on AFSupply's web site (which was annoying) so I attempted to calculate it based on its physical dimensions. Edit: I went back and looked again, and there is some rating information on their spec sheet, but it's quite confusing. I think the rating table is erroneous--there's no rating for the 19" ones.

But it was made with very small tubes and was just "wimpier" than any other radiator I have ever seen.

My statement about it being less EDR was based on physical appearance in person and that it put out way less heat in practice. I still don't know what the rated EDR of it is.

Here it is, it is very small. I wouldn't put it in anything larger than a small bathroom: https://www.afsupply.com/cast-iron-radiator-19-h-4-tubes-10-sections.html

foresthillsjd

@ethicalpaul What a coincidence, I ordered my radiators from AF Supply as well. The rating is on the sheet, but not in a straightforward way. In small letters underneath the 19" Height column, it says 1.6 sq ft EDR per section, so you just take the number of sections times 1.6 times 240 to convert it to BTU/hr. So a 10-section radiator is 10 x 1.6 x 240 = 4860 BTU/hr



I think that's correct because the results match with the table provided by Governale for the same style radiator. Let me know the calculated rating compares to your old radiators.
Governale Product Literature

Danny Scully

The EDR is actually mistakenly listed in inches below the column you circled @foresthillsjd. So a 4 section is 6.4 EDR not inches.

Steamhead

And a 10-section like the one in the picture is 16 square feet EDR.

ethicalpaul

> @Danny Scully said:
> The EDR is actually mistakenly listed in inches below the column you circled @ethicalpaul. So a 4 section is 6.4 EDR not inches.

Yep I thought it was fouled up, but I didn’t circle it