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What a nightmare. Chimney is thick as a brick.

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Need to get my flue pipe into the chimney. Its 3 inch PVC but getting a hole in the chimney is like trying to tunnel out of prison with a spoon. I gave up on the 4-inch carbide core bit. Using a hammer drill and lump hammer and chisel at the moment. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Might rent a chipping hammer but don't want to go over kill either. Any suggestions on good quality bit for a hammer drill?

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 21,169

    I assume your running a MOD cON flue up the chimney.First makesure you can use PVC as some boilers require polypropylene.

    Your going to have to make a big enough hole to get and elbow on as well so make the hole big enough from the start. Your going to have to patch anyhow.

    What kind of hole saw did you try?

    You might get a better drill or a chipping hammer at a rental store.

    But Amazon you can buy a rotary hammer for $75. I have one my cousin gave me for free as Amazon sent him 2 by mistake and wouldn't take it back. Comes with a few bits and chisels. I used his it was pretty good.

    scatgo
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 18,231
    edited September 12

    you can also drill a bunch of 3/8" holes and connect them with a hammer and chisel. brick or concrete block are usually fairly easy to break out but poured concrete can be very tough.

  • ratio
    ratio Posts: 4,329
    edited September 12

    When I had to move the breeching in my chimney, I bought a cheap Amazon/eBay wet core drill & core bit. All together it was around the cost of having it done professionally, but I've used it several times since then, for free, so I'm in the black now.

    (edit to remove naughty words)

    PC7060HVACNUT
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Posts: 27,906

    What is the material of the chimney? A core drill usually works, but there are some materials (oddly, sometimes "softer" one) where it gets bound up and stops drilling. Then @mattmia2 's idea should work.

    A bit of a warning — if there is a clay tile liner, you may shatter that when you get to it, so be prepared for some additional work on that… and a metal liner may tear and pull partly down leaving separations…

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Posts: 3,156

    @scatgo …No Andy Dufresne needed here. If you are cutting through brick, chip away the bricks and refit the brick around the new flue pipe. If it is cement, and from the sound of things, it is. An SDS hammer drill, drill bits, and a chipping bit should work, but that's a lot of work. Finding an SDS core bit and/or a combination of bits and chipping attachments will be needed. As you can tell, there isn't an easy way.

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Posts: 8,746

    Cores will go through any reinforced concrete, brick, block, rubble, it leaves a neat hole and does much less damage to the building and the body. Much faster too. Mad Dog

    EBEBRATT-EdIntplm.
  • scatgo
    scatgo Posts: 98

    Thanks for the help. Brain fart on my part. The hammer drill I was using is as old as me. My nephew came over with a nice big Dewalt and I could see right away thing were going to get a lot easier. I did have to go with the drill a bunch of holes and hammer away with a lump hammer and chisel because it was close to a foot of brick and cement before I got to the clay liner. And yea that liner is going to need some more work now. Time for my afternoon nap and then Ill be right back at it. Gas line and plumbing are next. Then of course nothing is going to work without electricity.

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 21,169

    @Mad Dog_2

    I had to core some holes on a hospital job and the only day they would let me do it was a Sunday. 4" 6" holes brick/block.

    We had some core rigs that were smaller "Bantam" I think they called them they were a lot smaller and lighter. I asked the guy at our shop ahead of time to get me one but of course he blew me off and I got stuck with the big one.

    I had to pull it up a ships ladder onto a roof, so I took the motor off to make it lighter.

    I drilled some anchors and put it on the wall then went to put the motor on but I was backed up to an air handler so not enough room for the motor. I had to take it down remount the motor and lift the whole thing up on a 6" step ladder to mount it. So I am drilling away (on my last hole) when maintenance came up to tell me water was dripping in a hallway. Good thing I wasn't over an OR LOL.

    Then take it all apart and rope it down.

    The drilling was the easy part. All the rest not so much.

    PC7060Mad Dog_2
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Posts: 11,644

    Wasn't there an existing opening for the appliance that was removed?

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Posts: 27,906

    It's never where you need it to be. That's a corollary of Murphy's Law.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • scatgo
    scatgo Posts: 98

    Its about two feet below where i would need it. The vent on the modcon I am installing has the vent coming out of the top and gas and water pipes going down from the bottom of the unit.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 18,231

    sometimes going through rebar or especially conduit is not desirable.

    this is kind of like ed's story, do you get the tool that will do it in 10 minutes but spend a couple hours over a couple weeks gathering the better tools or do you just spend 3 hours chipping away at it. when i'd do stuff at my mom's house i'd have limited time to do it so i'd gather stuff. at my house i can spend more time doing it the hard way.

    or decide i'll do it later indefinitely…

    Intplm.