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Techniques for Replacing 3" Boiler 3-Way Elbow

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I would like to replace this 3 inch elbow with a simple cap.
The boiler was new in 2007.
Although I have a 36 inch pipe wrench, a Sawsall, and Kroil, I absolutely do not want to crack the boiler in the process.

What would be the recommend procedure?

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 18,098

    cut a slot or 2 almost to the threads and split it at the cut with a chisel or a screwdriver and it should become loose on the threads.

    109A_5
  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Posts: 4,494

    It looks like it is being used, why replace it with a simple cap ?

    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Posts: 28,343

    or two 3/4” plugs would act as a cap

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    mattmia2PC7060
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Posts: 18,890

    That's known as a "heel tee".

    Co-Founder, All Steamed Up, Inc.

    Semi-retired

    Baltimore, MD, USA

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 18,098

    or back to @hot_rod 's question, why do you want to remove it? the chances of cracking the boiler if you don't remove it is close to 0.

  • Why replace it?

    1. I am relocating the feed to the other side.
    2. There is already a drain valve.
    3. The multiple bushings have always offended me.

    What is a Heel Tee?

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Posts: 28,343

    I suppose technically it is a 3 x 3/4 x 3 tee

    In the plumbing world it might be called a heel outlet ell

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • BobC
    BobC Posts: 5,576

    Thai is a ;lot work to go through just because you don't like the looks of it and there is some risk of damaging the boiler. i would leavr it be amd make sure the 3/4' plug is brass so it's easy to remove.

    Bob

    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
    mattmia2
  • Grallert
    Grallert Posts: 1,192

    Heat, lot of heat. But don't burn the jacket

    Miss Hall's School service mechanic, greenhouse teacher, dog walker and designated driver

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Posts: 27,815

    That's a lot of work and a lot of risk to go through to satisfy aesthetics. @BobC has it right, but if you want to spend the time and the money to make it look purty, that's your puppy.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Posts: 3,583

    You can crack a cast-iron fitting , and spin it off to clean the treads . It is the rason why we will use a cast fitting .. Easy for repairs down the road. Use a hand held lug hammer to hold on oppersite side of fitting and hit the other side with another hammer .. The ring sound will disappear when fitting is cracked .Once you hear the change of tone .. Then spin the fitting off to clean the threads … Don't beat the remainder off which could damage the nipple …. Good luck

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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Posts: 17,675

    Get a plug and a drain with the appropriate bushing and call it a day. Seriously.

    This is one of the times the lazy way is actually the better way.

    I understand you'd rather it be perfect, but a cracked boiler is going to offend you a whole lot more.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    mattmia2BobC
  • If you are relocating the feed to the other side, just remove the bushings and put the appropriate sized plugs on it. Not worth the risk in my opinion.

    If you insist on removing it, cut through it to the threads of the fitting without cutting into the nipples threads. Use a chisel to break the remaining threads to separate it. Should break the bond enough to remove it. Even then I wouldn't want to do this. I'd be afraid the impacts might crack the boiler.

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Posts: 11,636

    IIWM, I would put a full port ball valve into the existing 90, with hose fitting to use for flushing straight across the bottom of the boiler.

    Then cap the other copper line.

    EBEBRATT-Ed
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 21,026

    @Big Ed_4 you can crack cast iron but that tee is malleable not cast iron.

    Big Ed_4
  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Posts: 2,662

    You can slice it, hammer and chisel, and will come right off. But total waste of time.

    mattmia2
  • I will heed to the advice saying leave it be.

    I will remove the bushings and install a BRASS plug.

    The 3/4" port I will install a full port valve for flushing or draining.

    Thanks all!

    PC7060STEAM DOCTORepmillerhot_rod