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Picture group flash steam hammer on wet-dry return

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dlampe
dlampe Member Posts: 7
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mend of dry return and one-way check valve

Condensate is flashing over at this point and check valve is being slammed shut by the force rapid fire like emptying the clip on an AR-15 tap,tap,………tap.

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dry return to wet return transition

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near boiler piping and controls working as atmospheric boiler 2.5 lbs pressure below 2.5 lbs pressuretroll doesn’t turn on house gets cold.

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series 63 peerless

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near boiler piping and king valves

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End of main steam trap is for air venting to dry return.

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  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 27,252

    What pressure is that system running at? Most systems — not all — which have crossover traps were also vapour systems — very low pressure — and I'm wondering if your water hammer problem on that short horizontal pipe in the condensate drip which you show may be such that steam pressure in the mains is backing water up into it, since the dry return for which it is a drip will be at atmospheric, or should be.

    It may even be high enough that steam is pushing through your "wet" return from the steam main drip right next to it, condensing, and causing the problem.

    Check your cutout pressure — it probably should be less than 8 OUNCES per square inch, and certainly less than 1 POUND.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 16,500

    unless there is a vacuum pump i doubt that the condensate is flashing to steam after it has had a fair bit of piping to cool it down. Much more likely there is steam in the returns and the water is encountering that.

    If it is a vapor system and the boiler is oversized or some radiators are closed that pressuretorl won't adequately control the pressure.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 12,045
    Picture group flash steam hammer on wet-dry return

    So you have a picture that you needed to use a Flash camera to take a group shot of all your friends holding hammers, near your steam boiler? You can try a faster film like Kodak Tri-X 400. It is a black and white film but it has an ASA number of 400. That means you may not need a flash on your camera in low light conditions.

    Hope this helps, and hope I didn't misunderstand anything

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?