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  • HomerJSmith
    HomerJSmith Member Posts: 2,652
    edited June 24

    Competition is the solutions for all your problems. Cheap credit allows mergers to the detriment of price, quality and supply. So much the worse for anti-trust laws and consumer choice. False choice, you can choose A or B, A is the same as B. "You will own nothing and be happy."(Soma?) "You will be eatinz bugs." Gasp!

    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,492

    i think competing for the lowest price as the only selection criteria is how we got where we are now

  • HomerJSmith
    HomerJSmith Member Posts: 2,652

    mattmia2, competing for the highest profit, which is lowest production cost, is how we got where we are now! Mergers are highly profitable. No, R & D costs.

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,846

    You guys know we've now gone into a bad territory……

    The kind that gets threads shut down.

    Hopefully stuff has become bad enough that enough people are fed up and the trend will start going in the other direction.

    Products that are either broken out of the box, or failing 6 months to a year later will upset anyone, and it's happening more and more.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    mattmia2HomerJSmith
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,675

    Cordless power tool? DeWalt. Been using them for decades. So far, I have not noticed any cheaping out.

    ChrisJPC7060
  • CTETeach
    CTETeach Member Posts: 19

    I agree with the comments about the Milwaukee cordless tools. They are big bucks and the batteries don't seem to last. People laugh when I bring in the corded Milwaukee hole hog or right angle drill. But they work all day without playing with batteries.

    I have hand me down Ridgid wrenches, a 12R die set and a 65R head that has to be over 50 years old that still work, I had to replace some teeth but they still cut clean threads.

    My Ridgid tubing cutters and a basin wrench I got when I was an apprentice 45+ years ago. Until fairly recently they were used daily. I'm not sure if that kind of quality still exists.

    EBEBRATT-Ed
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,846

    My feeling is batteries not lasting isn't a quality issue.

    It's the nature of the beast.

    If you want a cordless light tool that has a lot of power, there's tradeoffs. We use mostly Dewalt where I work and they're very impressive even compared to most older corded tools. But the batteries are only going to last so long.

    The only observation I've made wit Milwaukee is it seems like Sawzalls have gotten bigger (more power), heavier and cheaper built.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,180

    Asking who owns whom in tools or boilers… or makes a given brand… try it with cars! At one time — like when I was a kid — at least GM or Ford or Chrysler made all the bits for the cars in their lines — although while engines tended to brand specific, most of the rest of the car wasn't, except for odd trim pieces. That gradually changed and at first engines were no longer brand specific — and now!

    Trying to figure out which engineering firm on which continent and in which country designed the particular part, never mind vehicle, and then which factory where actually built which part… a real nightmare. And worse, it can change… replacement parts (particularly electronics) seem to change weekly. With the quality varying all over the map. Often your best bet is to go to your local you-pull junkyard!

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    EBEBRATT-EdDanHolohan
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,235

    One thing that bugs me is replacement parts. I have tossed stuff that is 5-10 years old because parts are not available and you can't figure out a work around.

    But I have found parts available for a 20+ year old clothes drier. No consistency

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,492

    whirlpool has been making the same design since the 60's