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Steam Take-off piping

my boss always buys prefabricated near-boiler piping kits. Because of this he chose to pipe the steam take-off from our boiler like this. How much of an issue (if any) will this cause for the system?

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,843

    The two steam risers should be connected to the header separetly not teed together. Both risers should be fed before the equalizer.

    Mad Dog_2mattmia2Long Beach Ed
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 7,663

    As long as the boiler isn't surging it could be OK but it sure is going to look weird. In my opinion it depends on how much counterflow you might have in those mains.

    Are you planning on putting a plug in that Tee?

    Since it's not even done yet, I'd undo it all and re-do it with both mains coming out of the header like it should be.

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    delcrossv
  • 5_Tomcatcavey
    5_Tomcatcavey Member Posts: 2

    To clarify, the boiler piping kit came with one riser and one takeoff from the header. My boss chose to use that single takeoff to double back and connect to the old header which has two takeoffs. The equalizer is out of frame to the left of the picture. Sorry if the picture doesn’t capture everything.

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,183

    I agree with EBEbratt. Would like a fuller picture before I say 100%. Mad Dog

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,835

    Even if counterflow condensate isn't an issue per se there are a lot of reasons you could have problems getting that to heat evenly.

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,173

    Don't be "that guy". Re-do it as @mattmia2 suggests.

    I'd use both boiler taps but that's me.

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
    Mad Dog_2Long Beach Ed
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,835

    The boiler manual will tell you if you need to use both risers and what size the single or dual risers need to be. In some cases you can use 2 smaller risers in place of one larger riser. On very small boilers like that 2 risers usually isn't necessary if the rest of the near boiler piping is correct but the manual or steam velocity calculations is the final authority.

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,843

    What's the old quote?

    "If you haven't got the time to do it right how are you going to find the time to do it over"

    No one can predict if it will work or not but it is not right

    If you leave it that way it may work but it may not work.

    Then you will have to take it all apart and redo it.

    Mad Dog_2delcrossv
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,022

    If you also put a drip back to the boiler return off the end of that extra header, it should be OK. Otherwise you may have problems. But why? Surely it might have been possible to find a harder way to pipe that?

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    ethicalpaulLong Beach Ed
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,173

    Just put a 45 and a nipple up to those tees and similar to hook up the equalizer.

    Done!

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.