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My garden is unusable because of the smell

EmLovs
EmLovs Member Posts: 1

Hoping someone can give me some guidance. My attached neighbours oil tank is right next to our boundary wall and has a vent pointing over the fence. Every time there's the littlest bit of sunshine my garden and house stinks. I have to keep the back door and windows closed to try and keep it out but when you open the door to use the garden the smell of the oil tanks hits you right in the face, to the point you can taste it for hours afterwards. My eyes are steaming writing this and the odour can be trigger for my chronic migraines.

Is there anything I can do or do I have to just put up with it. We're not on speaking terms as it is (never have been, not done anything, when we moved in and said hi it was responded with "we don't talk to neighbours or trust anyone"). They are council renters, we own privately. Can I just message the council? Everyone else in the street are gas or electric, these neighbours insist on being "off grid" and pay oil company cash for the oil.

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  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited June 24

    I’d reach out to code enforcement to see what set back requirement exist for fuel tanks.
    You mentioned “council renter”; are you located in the UK? If so I’d definitely contact the council who owned the property or the body responsible for environmental code enforcement.

    Let us know how it works out.

    CLambIntplm.
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited June 24

    Assuming you are in the UK, this site may be helpful.
    Minimum setback appears to be 780 mm from boundary line (about 31”). This would also apply to any venting pipes.

    Edit: the tank shown in the image at top of page appears to be right on property line. 🙃

    https://www.tanksrus.co.uk/blog/oil-tanks-from-house#:~:text=760mm%20from%20a%20boundary.,example%2C%20a%20garden%20shed).

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,495

    Hard to believe an oil tank could result in such an obnoxious smell.

    But yes call code enforcement that is the first step.

    Does this smell continue for 24 hours a day 7 days a week?

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,519

    Sounds more like a leak that has soaked in.Call your Local HealthDept too. This is an environmental issue..Mad Dog

    mattmia2Intplm.ethicalpaul
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,878

    If they are council renters — it's the council's problem, and only the council's to solve. Get in touch with them, but… well, good luck.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    CLamb
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,519

    I'd be concerned there is an active oil leak that has leached in to the soil. You shouldn't be getting such odors front Fuel oil tank vent..On fill up ? OK, but once it's settled all the vent is doing is keeping the tank from going in to a vacuum..Mad Dog 🐕

    SuperTechGreening
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279

    I have worked on several leaking underground tank projects.

    You could not smell anything until the digging started. Then the fumes would just about knock you out.

    Diesel and gas both when in the dirt really cook up some smells.

    Do you have a basement or cellar, do you smell anything under your house? If you dig in the garden close to the boundary line do you smell oil in the soil?

    As stated above, this could be an "oil spill" environmental disaster.

    Derheatmeister
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,955

    I wonder if the UK uses some different grade of oil that has more volatile components.

  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,581

    Probably the other way around… i.e Lower sulphur contend in Europe.

  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,581

    One of my ex neighbors in Bergen County NJ had a oil spill after a large amount of water entered the Burried oil tank..

    This can be a Natural process…Water/Heavy downpour settled in the bottom and pushed the oil out of the top and into the Yard.

    Bad stuff..😫

    Mad Dog_2
  • JDHW
    JDHW Member Posts: 81

    if this is the uk there a few things to consider. Most council rented properties have been farmed out to housing associations so the local council/local authority no longer owns and manage the property. Whoever is responsble for the maintenance of the heating system will person who needs to sort this out. The maintainer of the heating system will inspect the storage tank and comment on conditon and report any leaks after every visit.

    Modern/replacement oil tanks must be bunded (double skinned) and there are more strict rules on where they can be located. The tank being described could be old and located under much older regulations.

    The body really responsible is the national Environment Agency but I don't know if they delegate responsibility to local authorities for domestic heating oil.

    Of you believe there is an oil leak (the concensous here seems this is likely) contact the Environment Agency and ask for advice. On way or another this should get things moving.

    John

  • D107
    D107 Member Posts: 1,906

    @EmLovs You wrote that every time there's a 'little sunshine' the smell comes—did you mean just early morning but not when it's cloudy or not at night?

  • ArthurTaylor
    ArthurTaylor Member Posts: 3

    I wonder what the actual smell is. Could it be oil tank algae? That would be a very bad smell and she does not say that it smells like a diesel truck stop.

  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 6,669
    edited July 4

    the sun heats the tank, causing oil fume air to be pushed out, it isn’t much of a mystery. Oil smells bad <shrug>


    or like Matt said, it’s leaking or they spill it when they fill it.

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  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,445

    I believe the OP, @EmLovs has left the building. No visits since posting. Too bad. We may be left wondering.

    Teemok
  • Teemok
    Teemok Member, Email Confirmation Posts: 677
    edited July 5

    If it is just VOC off gassing from sun heating, a carbon filter might be a good mitigation. Protecting a ready made one from the weather and how long it lasts is a question. water is the enemy of charcoal when filtering gases. They aren't that expensive and one for that application isn't hard to make. Filling a vertical 4'-4" plastic pipe with activated coconut charcoal pellets with screen to keep them in at the bottom. Keep the bottom off the ground and use a water tight connection to the tank vent pipe at the top. That would be my college try. That is, if I knew for a fact the smell comes from JUST the vent pipe termination.

    ethicalpaul
  • Teemok
    Teemok Member, Email Confirmation Posts: 677
    edited July 6

    @PC7060 The letter agencies have by now moved her and her neighbor out for safety to conduct three months of testing.

    ethicalpaulPC7060Greening