Another poor roughing in a Public Restroom

Mad Dog_2

Mad Dog_2

ethicalpaul

Man I can't believe how many of these public restrooms are built by DIYers!!

Mad Dog_2

Its getting worse. What caliber of Plumbing Inspector would pass this?? Mad 🐕 Dog

brillew63

horrible

ChrisJ

Mad Dog_2 said:

Its getting worse. What caliber of Plumbing Inspector would pass this?? Mad 🐕 Dog

Why do you feel this is Mad?
And what do you think was the reason that toilet ended up so far from the wall?

GGross

ChrisJ said:

Mad Dog_2 said:

Its getting worse. What caliber of Plumbing Inspector would pass this?? Mad 🐕 Dog

Why do you feel this is Mad?
And what do you think was the reason that toilet ended up so far from the wall?

You know how we get a lot of people on here who complain how hard it is to find a good plumber/hvac company? Well a good inspector needs to be good at their trade, among other things so that immediately shortens up the list. In addition to that in my region an inspector might make up to 3/4 what they could make out in the field, I've been told 1/2 but I have a hard time with that being true across the board.

I am in a region that has a low population and quite a bit of money (vacation destination lots of rich seasonal folks) Our building department actually follows the code, and you wouldn't believe how angry people get about that (on occasion myself included, though I am embarrassed to admit it) It is a difficult job to do correctly, and almost always comes with anger from the people you are meant to work with, and almost never a "Thank you"

In the more populated city areas south of me I have seen that they may hire people with no credentials whatsoever to do inspections , those ones almost always pass. My uncle (from that area) built "the last house I'll ever build" a few years ago and spent a few months studying what code changes happened since he was last in the field. He would labor to make a small change to make sure he was code compliant if he noticed he messed something up. He told me every time he called for inspection the guy would pull up to the house, sit in the car a few minutes and then leave, never asked to see anything.

MikeL_2

Besides poor workmanship, please list the violated codes.

CLamb

As a urinal user the most troubling flaw wasn't quite a plumbing error but more of a design error. When a person stood at the urinal in an office building opening the door would slam the doorknob into the urinal user's spine.

ChrisJ

MikeL_2 said:

Besides poor workmanship, please list the violated codes.

Johnny bolts seem to be invisible.

JUGHNE

I would guess that for ADA requirements the rear grab bar is too far from the front of the WC for practical use.

Can't tell from the picture but I believe the center of the WC should be 18" from the side wall.
I have heard stories of some inspectors failing for perhaps 1" too far either way.

JUGHNE

I come across this walk in tub in a struggling nursing home.
It has since been changed.

SlamDunk

I have seen that in homes with 14" rough ins usin toilets with 10" roughins. But that one looks 90 degrees out.

mattmia2

SlamDunk said:

I have seen that in homes with 14" rough ins usin toilets with 10" roughins. But that one looks 90 degrees out.

It looks like they tried to shift things to make a larger handicapped stall or something.

Intplm.

To answer a few of the questions asked above about the toilet installation picture.

This toilet is surely a public restroom toilet.
The grab bars indicate that this is possibly a handicapped bath. Or it might also be what is defined as an Ambulatory restroom stahl bathroom. They are defined differently in many plumbing codes which are also strongly related to Department of Public Health codes.

The toilet is installed with an orientation that shows that it does not offer enough room for someone who is ambulatory or handicapped to use it. Not to mention a person who is not disabled.
The installation pictured is amateuress and is not within any code compliance that I can think of.

Code compliance exists for many reasons. Ergonomics for special needs folks is one reason.
Health and safety reasons for another.

I think the wall was moved or added without any thought about moving the plumbing.

I can't speak for @Mad Dog_2 who started this post but I think he might agree with me as many others would that this is an issue that if installed in a restaurant, could get them a low-letter rating if not a fine.