Wall Brackets for Wall Hung Cast iron radiator

nicole9christine

Hello

I have a Gurney cast iron wall hung radiator that I want to mount to the wall. It's 14" wide, 3" deep and 56" long (4 sections at 14" each). Photo attached.

I don't have the brackets to attach to the wall and I can't seem to find that anyone carries them.

Where can I find brackets that can be used to support the radiator.

Look forward to hearing back.

Thank you,
Nicole

ScottSecor

Maybe this would work for you?
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/194011/is-a-magnetic-boiler-filter-necessary#latest

Big Ed_4

7" lag bolts and fender washers...

nicole9christine

Scott, thanks for sharing the post. The feet were designed off of an old catalogue so it doesn’t look like you can purchase them.

PC7060

How far off floor do you want the radiators positioned?

I’d use a custom aluminum base with brackets like these to position and hold against wall

Arroll TEP-903-CH Chrome Radiator brackets... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0154F2EFY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

nicole9christine

Thanks for link. I want to Position the bottom of the rad above the baseboards, which are approx. 7 inches. I think I need to support the weight at the bottom of the rad and also use something to fasten the rad to the wall.

offdutytech

Usually the ones I come across they set 3/8 or 1/2 black pipe in the basement walls when they were put in and used a steel or threaded rod with nuts to support it. Depending on if the walls are brick or poured concrete could do the same in a retrofit application and epoxy the pipe in a drilled hole for the bottom. For the supports you could use a threaded rod plate hanger or drop in anchor for threaded rod. I would feel more confident if it's a poured concrete wall vs brick depending on what type of brick it is. I would do a few test holes with anchors to make sure it's solid. Back-up plan unistrut, but it's not as graceful looking.

PC7060

I’m assuming the walls you are dealing with are not concrete but a typical framed wall. The wall connection rods would provide lateral stability.  In the case the load would need to be transferred to the floor with either machines legs similar to the earlier HH link or a simpler block system with a cradle to capture the radiator. 

This will likely be a custom item which could be masonry, metal or even wood. Know any handy people you could enlist to make something?

nicole9christine

The radiator will be attached to a framed wall. It's currently under construction so we have the option to add additional support pieces. The wall connection rods will secure the rad to the wall so it doesn't tip forward but we need something to support the weight.

I found brackets but they were made for wider radiators and not suitable for a narrow one.

I found the original catalogue for the Gurney radiators, which showed the wall brackets for the wall hung rads. I have the 7 foot loop rad. Photo attached and on page 72 of the catalogue, also attached.

I have a contractor and we're both trying to figure out best option to support it. I wish someone still made those brackets.

offdutytech

Maybe try a pipe saddle support like the one pictured on in the old brochure. 
They still make those but might have to customize it for your needs. Here is a link
https://argco.com/2550852-30.html

Or try a threaded weldolet. Using a pipe nipple and floor flange 

https://argco.com/pipe-joining/welded-outlets/weld-o-lets-threaded-import.html


https://www.empireindustries.com/products/pipe-hangers-and-supports/pipe-supports-stanchions/426-adjustable-pipe-saddle-support

PC7060

This item from the site @offdutytech recommended is a great option. Available in stainless steel to would complement the wall bolts 

https://www.empireindustries.com/products/pipe-hangers-and-supports/pipe-supports-stanchions/428kt-adjustable-pipe-saddle-support-kit/

nicole9christine

Thank you! I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a pipe saddle support! But if I understand correctly it would require bolting the support to the floor and supporting it from underneath.

I'd like to mount the rad above the baseboard with nothing below and the pipes going into the wall.

So I think this would require supporting the radiator with a bracket underneath the radiator. I've included a photo of a bracket I found but it's too large. I would need something narrower. If someone has any suggestions on how to find something similar that would be great.

Thanks for all the responses. Much appreciated!!

pecmsg

Is that is a HW Radiator?
I assume you want to mount it horizontal. You will need 3 or 4 feet placed over floor Joyce to carry the load. (We’re talking several hundred pounds) and 2 or 3 wall supports to keep it from tipping over. 

JimP

I rarely come across old brackets that are practical for specific jobs so I like to use these homemade brackets. The gold one is 2-1/2” pipe which work on narrow radiators. I use 3” pipe for most radiators including one like yours. For the upper bracket I use threaded rod to fashion whatever tie is necessary to keep the radiator plumb. That varies depending on the radiator style. The silver radiator pictured is an installation with 3” pipe brackets in a commercial space.

nicole9christine

Jim, thanks so much for the response. The radiator is 3" wide and I'm planning to install it vertically. You mentioned that it's a home made bracket. Did you make it or is it something you bought? I'm not technical so any details would be much appreciated. Do you think that the brackets at the bottom would support or would require brackets for each section?

JimP

I make these brackets. I cut a piece of 3” pipe about 2” long and then cut that piece in half to make two u shaped pieces. I weld that piece of pipe to a piece of 1-1/2” X 3/8” flat stock about 6” long. 3/8” provides a distance from the wall that’s good for me. (It could be spaced farther out if you like). I drill 3 or 4, 5”16” holes in the flat stock to attach the bracket to the wall. The hole size depends on the anchors used.
I like to use two brackets because they have to go on the wall before the radiator. Install them level spaced out at each end. The radiator will nestle into two brackets nicely. The brackets need to be strongly attached to the wall. If it’s wood framing long strong screws need to go into the center of a wall stud.

The top attachments hold the radiator in place. I usually set the radiator on the brackets and mark where the top attachments will be. Sometimes I have to remove the radiator to get the top “Sammy” attachment into the wall before resetting the radiator and screwing in the threaded rod with nuts and washers, flat stock or any good means to pinch the radiator in place.

Please let me know if you have any questions.