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Black Pipe Measurements
rickster05
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Have 3 sections of pipe needed for LP. Anyone care to confirm my math?
Tarm Solo Plus wood boiler with 600 gal storage tank using repurposed cast iron radiators.
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It would be a lot easier in centimeters!
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The first 2 examples I understand. I come up with slightly different measurements. Rule of thumb on 1/2 & 3/4 pipe is that it will make in the fitting 1/2" which may not be exactly what the book says but your within tolerances with your measurements.
The last example I don't understand what your doing
The other issue is that pipe and nipples will "make in" to different fittings different amounts. They are not supposed to but they do. Threads going into a union will usually make in more than an elbow for instance. There is always some variability in the fitting quality also which is variable.2 -
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I don't quite follow this, but I am guessing you are trying to figure-out your length of pipe after deducting how much it threads into the fitting (coupling, 90 tee, etc)? I am trying to understand this stuff myself, as I am working with laying-out 1-1/4 black pipe. I am making a mock-up of the supply/return, but I see how the lengths change after cranking everything tight.
What does "TE," & "CF" mean? I have experienced a loss of about 1/2" when tightening 1/2" & 3/4" black pipe to fittings. Do things change for WARD USA parts vs. Home Creepo Vietnam parts?1 -
Yeah. I'm not sure of his terminology. In our excellent NYC Local # 2 Apprenticeship, We learned....
E to E = End to End Measurements.
E to C = End to Center Measurements
C to C = Center to Center
T.B.E. = Threaded both ends
Basically, all Measurements that involve fittings in a run 🏃♂️ or developed length, are to be measured from the fittings center.
The distance from the Center to the end of threaded portion of the female fitting is "the fitting take off" and is deducted from the overall length.
For the Gold Standard Of Master Plumber Practical Exams, the NYC standards allow no more than two threads showing after full tightening, no wrench marks perfectly sqaure and shall not leak under air pressure test.
If you take your time with the Measurements, you'll get the hang of it. 1/8ths of an inch accuracy 👌 usually works out but I try for 1/16th. The better fitting manufacturers like Ward & Anvil (USA 🇺🇸) tell you the takeoff of each fitting.
Screw pipe is the true test of a plumbers skills. Mad Dog 🐕
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Convert all of the fractions into decimal and then it doesn't matter.ethicalpaul said:It would be a lot easier in centimeters!
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Thanks all. The feedback was helpful! This was an easier task when I had my grandfathers powered cutter/threader/dies. Was easy to do it piece by piece as you go and make the measurements and adjustments on site…Tarm Solo Plus wood boiler with 600 gal storage tank using repurposed cast iron radiators.1
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