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Sdress27
Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
Not sure what this device is. Anyone have any idea? It is attached to a steam line. Its near a coil for an AHU also near a pressure reducing valve not sure if those context clues help. Thanks

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,050
    edited June 2023
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    Just saw the sight glass.  Can u get a pic from a way back to see what its connected to?   Mad Dog 🐕 
  • Sdress27
    Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
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    The bottom line is going to a drain the top two appear to be part of a larger condensate line which goes to a condensate receiver/pump.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,050
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    Sight glass and a Pet cock....intriguing...Mad Dog 🐕 
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,050
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    Any check valves?  If u could draw a diagram of whats piped to and away from it , that would help.  Mad Dog 🐕 
  • Sdress27
    Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
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    No check valves in immediate area
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,383
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    How many of you were around and thinking about this sort of thing in the late '70s? Yogi Berra said, it's like deja vu all over again...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,868
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    Any name on it?
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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,707
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    Where does the tubing with the petcock go?
    CLamb
  • Pumpguy
    Pumpguy Member Posts: 661
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    It sure looks like a float type steam trap. These would not be bubble tight but having a level of water above the valve and seat, it would be water sealed, passing only water but not any gasses.

    Now, why its there, and what its supposed to do; that to me is the real question.
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  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 522
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    Steam Trap 4721 😉 .. The stamped tag wired to valve in picture #2
    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
    mattmia2
  • Sdress27
    Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
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    Why the sight glass though? And I cant find any information on what kind or model that is to go off. 
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,868
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    reggi said:

    Steam Trap 4721 😉 .. The stamped tag wired to valve in picture #2

    That's probably an inventory number that the building's owner or manager put there.

    The sight glass is probably there so one can see the rising and falling water level.

    We have a lot of old literature- that's why the name is needed. Have you found names on any other old hardware on this system?
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  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 522
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    Sdress27 said:
    Why the sight glass though? And I cant find any information on what kind or model that is to go off. 
    Wire brush with on a pole extension if you can't reach.... it's just about flaked off already 😷🥽

    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,050
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    I see letters embossed under the crackled paint.  Mad Dog 🐕 
    reggi
  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 522
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    Mad Dog_2 said:
    I see letters embossed under the crackled paint.  Mad Dog 🐕 
    Hence the wire brush 😶... more specifically location 

    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
  • Sdress27
    Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
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    I brushed it off couldnt get a good picture but it said
    “Steam Trap Boylston Steam Special Chicago” I guess the mystery is kind of solved but still looking for another example on the internet or something similar. To see what it looks like inside and still fascinated by the sight glass. 
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,868
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    Well, we're always learning. I'd never heard of Boylston, but apparently they were founded in the late 19th century, and are still around. From what I can tell, they specialized in high-pressure steam specialties. I googled them and here's what came up:

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=boylston+steam+specialty+co#ip=1

    @Sdress27 , this may have been a high-pressure system. Is it in an old factory building?
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    Towson, MD, USA
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,574
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    Could it be a steam driven condensate pump?
    mattmia2
  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 522
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    Maybe @retiredguy or @Dave in QCA .. they seem to have some knowledge on Boylston ( prior posts)
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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,050
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    Are u sure its not Boynton? (Boynton & Richardson)  mad Dog 🐕 
  • dko
    dko Member Posts: 609
    edited June 2023
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    Not the exact one as I don't see two tappings on the side- possibly for different pressure ratings as there were 5 different styles (bottom of boylston4 pic). Attached some advertisements of the boylston steam traps. along with other steam traps that used sight glasses during the same time period.
    Sdress27reggiMad Dog_2Intplm.
  • Sdress27
    Sdress27 Member Posts: 8
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    Awesome thank you all for your contributions and assistance!
  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 522
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    Glad you found what you needed..still a interesting history. . But anyway here's the original design and patent... not always the final product but interesting info


    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
    Sdress27