Coal fired

unclejohn

Went to my Amish cabnet makers shop today and asked if he had a oil fired boiler he said no coal. 

Mad Dog_2

Cool...is that is Penna?  I'm more familiar with the Mennonites of the Finger Lakes. Very interesting folks.  Both Anabaptists. Do you know them well?   Mad Dog 🐕 

EBEBRATT-Ed

Boiler looks naked as a jay bird. No controls and no wiring. LOL The good old days.

Nothing to go wrong with it unless you run it out of water or blow it up!!!!!

unclejohn

@Mad Dog_2 Camden Wyoming Delaware. Simon is the guy making our cabinets. Gravity system he said he “thinks” it has a pop off. 

Mad Dog_2

Camden NJ? Laramie Wyoming?  Newark Delaware?   Mad Dog 🐕 

unclejohn

@Mad Dog_2

west of Dover

unclejohn

For some reason it wont load my screenshot 

unclejohn

It’s near here. camden-wyoming moose lodge 203

Mad Dog_2

There are Amish in Delaware?  Mad Dog  🐕 

Robert_25

The boiler looks like a DS Machine unit.  I wonder how the rest of the system is piped?  The pipe size is quite a bit smaller than a traditional gravity system.

ethicalpaul

There are amish people in every state probably, but very few in Hawaii.

I had lunch at John's Pizzeria on Bleecker street the other day, they have a coal fired oven and they were loading it up while I was there, it was pretty cool.

leonz

I do not think that hand fed gravity hot water coal fired boiler is a DS Machine boiler.

About Coal fired pizza ovens; Stove size Anthracite Coal is typically used in coal fired pizza ovens.
The coal fire is kept in the back corner of the oven and not piled high allowing good combustion to occur and heat the fire brick on the floor roof and sides of the oven. The heat is constant and even across the
oven floor allowing the smaller pizzas thinner crust to be fully baked in a very, very, short time usually less than 2 minutes.

Mad Dog_2

Are they Horse & Buggy Amish in Hawaii?   I know Mennonite much better.  They own John's  🍕 on Bleecker? They donrun a few produce stands...The best Coal-Fired Pizza is Patsy's on 118th Street in East Harlem (Fat Tony Salerno's old hood).  Its been smoldering non stop since 1933.  Large slices...no frills shop. Lines go around the block but move fast.   The Restaurant next store is also very good.  While your up there, peek in to Rao's ..they'll hold a table for ya....In 20 years when one frees up! Ha ha.  Mad Dog 🐕 🤣 

GroundUp

Amazing how different things are based on region. I can throw a stone in any direction and hit 5 coal boilers, but have literally only seen 1 oil boiler in my entire life.

retiredguy

@unclejohn; you can tell that they burn hard coal since the boiler room walls and floor are clean. If they burned soft coal the room would a darker color. Where I am located we serviced both hard and soft coal, #1, #2, #6, fuel oil, natural gas, a little propane and even a few sewer gas units. The boiler for the Ebensburg, Pa sewage plant got about 50% of their heat to keep the poop warm and the digesters working at maximum from sewer gas. To see the flame you had to turn off all the lights and view the flame in the dark.

leonz

I wish we could obtain oiled Western Sub Bituminous Stoker Coal from Montana or Wyoming here in the east as I would have 90% less coal ash to deal with.

retiredguy

Are you sure you are not speaking of anthracite coal. Sub-bituminous coal has a very low heat value. It's BTU value is just above lignite. I never burned it but it would probably produce a lot of ash and my even be hard to burn.

jumper

GroundUp said:

Amazing how different things are based on region. I can throw a stone in any direction and hit 5 coal boilers, but have literally only seen 1 oil boiler in my entire life.

Coal does not go bad like heating oils can. So if there's enough room then big advantage in case of fuel delivery interruption.

leonz

retiredguy said:

Are you sure you are not speaking of anthracite coal. Sub-bituminous coal has a very low heat value. It's BTU value is just above lignite. I never burned it but it would probably produce a lot of ash and may even be hard to burn.

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The Western Sub Bituminous coal from The Provinces of British Columbia and Alberta, the States of Alaska, Wyoming and Montana burns very hot and quick due to the volatiles in it releasing more easily as it is more friable than bituminous coal. and it produces little smoke and a very small amount of ash compared to Anthracite coal from England or the states of Colorado and Pennsylvania.

Lignite is referred to as Slack Coal in England.

Solid_Fuel_Man

jumper said:

Amazing how different things are based on region. I can throw a stone in any direction and hit 5 coal boilers, but have literally only seen 1 oil boiler in my entire life.

Coal does not go bad like heating oils can. So if there's enough room then big advantage in case of fuel delivery interruption.

Neither does firewood. Although, coal isn't affected by water.