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If Only It Were This Easy...

Or how not to install steam radiators in the basement:

Note the subsequently added nipple and cap to vent tapping....
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  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,555
    It's a Magic Radiator doesn't need a return or vent.
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,700
    It would work. For a while!

    Just add a manual drain & tell the customer that he'll need to drain the lazy-@$$ water out of it whenever it stops heating.

    Long Beach Ed
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,041
    Maybe he was hoping that vacuum created by steam condensing, would lift water out of the radiator. 
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,008
    You can't fix stupid.................
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,568
    It’s the ultimate condensate trap. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,795
    And mud leg!

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    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,839
    He was trying to keep the water meter from freezing. lol
  • Waher
    Waher Member Posts: 257
    I'd ask the original 'plumber' why they didn't hang the radiator from the ceiling pitched to drain and add an air vent. But the lack of an understanding of certain arcane fundamentals... like fluids & gasses and their relationship to gravity (no hangers on the copper pipe either) doesn't inspire confidence that they could have gotten that right.
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 8,167
    I just don't see anything wrong with that radiator. The plumber got paid for the job... what more can you ask for.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,215
    See, they just hung them on basement ceilings to save floor space.