From WSJ ... New England Risks Winter Blackouts as Gas Supplies Tighten
Blocked pipeline projects from Marcellus, blocked transmission line projects, renewables aren't ready to take the load, Jones Act, Ukraine conflict ... a lot of contributing factors.
Not sure if the gas fired boiler or heat pump is the way to go this winter.
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Without worrying about the cause, this shouldn't surprise anyone. What your energy source is is also pretty much irrelevant. Have some extra fuel on hand (doesn't apply to natural gas; if that's cut off, so sorry). Have a generator with enough capacity and enough fuel (don't count on going to the local gas station for more).Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England2 -
Preparedness for an unplanned outage is one thing (storm damage etc). Policies preventing transport of nat gas or electricity from a few 100 miles away is another kettle of fish.0
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to add to the list of things to have on hand:
- Starting Fluid
- Jumper Cables
- Battery Jump Pack
- Vehicles with full gas tanks that are started bi-monthly
- Start your generator bi-monthly
- Printed instruction's on how to re-establish the magnetic field in the generator
- Gas
- Diesel
- Propane (16 oz, 20 pounds, small plumber torch, weed burner torch)
- Coleman Fuel, Lantern, Stove
- Flashlights
- Radios
- Matches, Zippo, BBQ lighter, Bic
- Food
- Water
- Lawyers, Guns, Money
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WMno57 said:to add to the list of things to have on hand:
- Starting Fluid
- Jumper Cables
- Battery Jump Pack
- Vehicles with full gas tanks that are started bi-monthly
- Start your generator bi-monthly
- Printed instruction's on how to re-establish the magnetic field in the generator
- Gas
- Diesel
- Propane (16 oz, 20 pounds, small plumber torch, weed burner torch)
- Coleman Fuel, Lantern, Stove
- Flashlights
- Radios
- Matches, Zippo, BBQ lighter, Bic
- Food
- Water
- Lawyers, Guns, Money
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JakeCK said:WMno57 said:to add to the list of things to have on hand:
- Starting Fluid
- Jumper Cables
- Battery Jump Pack
- Vehicles with full gas tanks that are started bi-monthly
- Start your generator bi-monthly
- Printed instruction's on how to re-establish the magnetic field in the generator
- Gas
- Diesel
- Propane (16 oz, 20 pounds, small plumber torch, weed burner torch)
- Coleman Fuel, Lantern, Stove
- Flashlights
- Radios
- Matches, Zippo, BBQ lighter, Bic
- Food
- Water
- Lawyers, Guns, Money
What good is money going to do one in a shtf scenario? Toilet paper?
Well.
We all now know what @WMno57 has at his house.
And apparently doesn't use toilet paper.Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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What good is money going to do one in a shtf scenario? Toilet paper?JakeCK said:WMno57 said:to add to the list of things to have on hand:- Starting Fluid
- Jumper Cables
- Battery Jump Pack
- Vehicles with full gas tanks that are started bi-monthly
- Start your generator bi-monthly
- Printed instruction's on how to re-establish the magnetic field in the generator
- Gas
- Diesel
- Propane (16 oz, 20 pounds, small plumber torch, weed burner torch)
- Coleman Fuel, Lantern, Stove
- Flashlights
- Radios
- Matches, Zippo, BBQ lighter, Bic
- Food
- Water
- Lawyers, Guns, Money
According to this site each dollar bill you burn is worth 12.44 BTUs!
https://coalpail.com/fuel-comparison-calculator-home-heating0 - Starting Fluid
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I that the same BTU rate for $100.00 bills? $803,858,520.90 per million BTUsBobZmuda said:
According to this site each dollar bill you burn is worth 12.44 BTUs!
https://coalpail.com/fuel-comparison-calculator-home-heating
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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For a number of years I contributed to the Society for the Protection of New Hampshire Forests' "Trees not Towers" campaign. It was successful; Northern Pass is dead. Why? Because of greed. Had Northern Pass LLC done the right thing and proposed burying the line over its entire route, neither I nor any other "greenies" would have had objections. In my opinion, all transmission lines throughout the country ought be buried. However, any impingement upon profits is unacceptable to developers of all stripes. Thus, southern New England will be unable to avail itself of Canadian hydropower, but New Hampshire will be spared the blight of even more massive towers.woobagooba said:...blocked transmission line projects...
I cannot speak to the specifics of any other proposed transmission line projects, especially whether, unlike Northern Pass, they would provide at least some benefit to the northern New England states they're asking to go through.
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@Sal Santamaura -- you and I were and are very much on the same page on the Northern Pass project! Surprised? But for me it was only partly the transmission line. For me it was the source of the power -- HydroQuebed's "green" hydropower. Which they create by building big dams, flooding huge areas of wilderness north of the St. Lawrence -- and, not incidentally, forcing whole First Nations tribes off their lands and communities with no compensation or even opportunity to object.Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
I've seen this play out now several times. Cape Wind. Northern Pass, Clean Energy Connect, Kinder Morgan Northeast Energy Direct. RIP.
Local renewables are not yet ready to take the load (mass scale storage is not yet viable).
Electrification is being incentivized (EVs and heat pumps) w/o an adequate plan to supply the electrons.0 -
woobagooba said:I've seen this play out now several times. Cape Wind. Northern Pass, Clean Energy Connect, Kinder Morgan Northeast Energy Direct. RIP. Local renewables are not yet ready to take the load (mass scale storage is not yet viable). Electrification is being incentivized (EVs and heat pumps) w/o an adequate plan to supply the electrons.
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woobagooba said:
Not sure if the gas fired boiler or heat pump is the way to go this winter.Folks on heating oil 👀0 -
Maybe people in New England should convert to oil, and have a large capacity tank. Buy it in the summer and store it for use in the winter. That would eliminate the dependence on imported gas. I have to believe that oil prices will fall in a few years.I'm not a plumber or hvac man and my thoughts in comments are purely for conversation.0
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Jersey2 said:Maybe people in New England should convert to oil, and have a large capacity tank. Buy it in the summer and store it for use in the winter. That would eliminate the dependence on imported gas. I have to believe that oil prices will fall in a few years.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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New England is not a homogeneous place of elegant subdivisions and the Boston/New York corridor or places like the Burlington/Bennington corridor in Vermont. A goodly chunk of the territory by area -- not by population -- is very rural.
Natural gas is not an option in those area, which cover at a guess at least 3/4 of the area -- and perhaps, also at a guess, a tenth of the population.
For those areas, though, the choices are oil, LP, and electricity. Oil and LP are within a few percent of each other, priced per BTU. Electricity is still more expensive unless the heat pump COP is at least 3..
For the storage question on oil, most reliable dealers offer a "prebuy" option during the summer months. This gets around the storage problem for the homeowner or business.Br. Jamie, osb
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I understand your objections. I've long felt that the singular root cause of this planet's substantial problems is massive human overpopulation. In light of the fact that there is no will whatsoever to stop, much less reverse, that population growth, I accept the inevitable negatives of projects like Northern Pass as long as they're (in my opinion) more than balanced by benefits. In this case, they didn't come close.Jamie Hall said:@Sal Santamaura -- you and I were and are very much on the same page on the Northern Pass project! Surprised? But for me it was only partly the transmission line. For me it was the source of the power -- HydroQuebed's "green" hydropower. Which they create by building big dams, flooding huge areas of wilderness north of the St. Lawrence -- and, not incidentally, forcing whole First Nations tribes off their lands and communities with no compensation or even opportunity to object.
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