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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447

















    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
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  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    Avert your eyes lest ye gaze upon...


    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    edited June 8
    Where once was a fully intact gravity hot water system.

    Felled by the mighty Sawzall.

    Too late...

    Destined for baseboard evermore.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 19,156
    Please don't tell me they're ripping the old radiators out? Please? That would be borderline criminal.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • pedmec
    pedmec Member Posts: 220
    It is when art meets history. Beautiful radiators but nowhere to put them. When i see the old heating systems i really get conflicted. i enjoy the look of the old radiators and different styles and think how much better they must of looked brand new.

    Then i start thinking, What effing maniacs carried those in and installed them all. Man did those old timers have to put the work in. I just can't wrap my head around it. i put the work in now and i still con't believe plumbers actually installed them.

    I used to hear people complain about plumbers making all kinds of money and i didn't know what they were talking, because i wasn't see it. then i started working in Boston with all the old buildings with district steam and started realizing why people would say that. nobody worked HARDER.
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    I am. And we weep as one. 

    Please don't tell me they're ripping the old radiators out? Please? That would be borderline criminal.

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    Radiators aren’t hard. We do them all the time. What they are is beautiful. 

    Unlike baseboard. 

    pedmec said:
    It is when art meets history. Beautiful radiators but nowhere to put them. When i see the old heating systems i really get conflicted. i enjoy the look of the old radiators and different styles and think how much better they must of looked brand new. Then i start thinking, What effing maniacs carried those in and installed them all. Man did those old timers have to put the work in. I just can't wrap my head around it. i put the work in now and i still con't believe plumbers actually installed them. I used to hear people complain about plumbers making all kinds of money and i didn't know what they were talking, because i wasn't see it. then i started working in Boston with all the old buildings with district steam and started realizing why people would say that. nobody worked HARDER.

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • JimP
    JimP Member Posts: 47
    What interesting radiators! The ribbing gives them a nautical feel!
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 5,751
    pedmec said:

    It is when art meets history. Beautiful radiators but nowhere to put them. When i see the old heating systems i really get conflicted. i enjoy the look of the old radiators and different styles and think how much better they must of looked brand new.

    Then i start thinking, What effing maniacs carried those in and installed them all. Man did those old timers have to put the work in. I just can't wrap my head around it. i put the work in now and i still con't believe plumbers actually installed them.

    I used to hear people complain about plumbers making all kinds of money and i didn't know what they were talking, because i wasn't see it. then i started working in Boston with all the old buildings with district steam and started realizing why people would say that. nobody worked HARDER.

    A whole lot easier than putting stoves everywhere
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,432


    I am. And we weep as one. 


    Please don't tell me they're ripping the old radiators out? Please? That would be borderline criminal.



    Once again- you can't fix stupid!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 165
    Hmmm, the two radiators piped together at an angle with two pipes between the radiators. How did they do that ??? Left and right hand threaded nipples ?

    Wish I had those radiators, mine are kind of plain.
    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,334
    edited June 9
    You’re an accomplice @New England SteamWorks 🤣. Couldn’t even sell them on panel rads? I find that hard to believe with all the awesome steam work you sell! 
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    You know what they say....


    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    WMno57STEVEusaPA
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 3,342
    Just imagine how good those baseboards will look in 50 years!

    Edward Young
    Retired HVAC Contractor from So. Jersey.
    Services first oil burner at age 16
    P/T trainer for EH-CC.org
    ethicalpaul
  • Jimbabwe
    Jimbabwe Member Posts: 7
    Gorgeous woodwork in the place for sure. And that truly does make me sad to know those old iron beauties are no longer there. They are both unique and beautiful. I’ve never run across that ribbed style before. Who was the manufacturer?  

    While I do understand and respect the desire for more floor/wall space by removing them it certainly takes away from the original charm and grandeur of the place. Baseboards will never have that same esthetic. 
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 19,156
    For what it's worth, it also reduces the monetary value of the place -- at least 20% or more -- and removes it from consideration as an historic building or place (NPS guidelines for consideration) regarding preservation grants, easements, etc.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    Update! They have now decided to keep radiators on the 1st floor. We'll be removing and refinishing those shortly. Should have some "after" pics in a month or two. Not sure about using that condensing boiler, but fortunately, that is not our part of the project.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    STEVEusaPAreggiDoubleBoiler
  • OldSchoolHVAC
    OldSchoolHVAC Member Posts: 13
    edited June 30
    Nice retrofit you have there. I am curious about the new boiler that you are installing though. If I am looking at your picture correctly, you have the primary boiler pump on the supply / outlet of the boiler? Is this what the boiler manufacturer recommends?
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,447
    We have nothing to do with the boiler. It is a hot water system. The only hot water systems we work on are gravity ones. Which this home had, until the current plumber arrived. Our only role here is to refinish the radiators. As far as the boiler, we share all of the concerns, but shoulder none of the burdens.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • SteamCoffee
    SteamCoffee Member Posts: 101
    Any makers marks on those radiators? Simply beautiful!
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 16,566
    Nice retrofit you have there. I am curious about the new boiler that you are installing though. If I am looking at your picture correctly, you have the primary boiler pump on the supply / outlet of the boiler? Is this what the boiler manufacturer recommends?
    The Caleffi DirtMag is upside down also
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    PC7060