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Last guy said it runs fine...
STEVEusaPA
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New Customer..."Can you fix it".
Me..."Nope".
--Hide the kids before viewing. You can't un see this LOL--
This was running before I got there. Customer said it keeps going off on reset, probably just needs a nozzle/filter.
Aluminum pan loosely covering the rotted front plate. Rotted 10" flue pipe into unlined chimney on a 100+ year old house.
Me..."Nope".
--Hide the kids before viewing. You can't un see this LOL--
This was running before I got there. Customer said it keeps going off on reset, probably just needs a nozzle/filter.
Aluminum pan loosely covering the rotted front plate. Rotted 10" flue pipe into unlined chimney on a 100+ year old house.
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Was there a front plate there or did they just fill it all in with asbestos?0
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Would a hack even touch that one to "keep them going"? Serious question. I don't have a problem with old equipment, but when it's been obviously neglected and missing parts, that I'm guessing can't be acquired any longer...0
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Wow. I've seen some old boilers in bad condition but nothing remotely close to the horrific condition of that one.
I don't know how that even the most clueless person would think that's OK to operate. I can hear it all now..."it was working great a few days ago...".0 -
The disposable aluminum pan is a nice touch. 😳Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
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Thats some Serious Custom Shiz right there....0
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New plate on the front, new flue pipe and liner and it will run.
But should be replaced
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It's worse than the pictures show. Chamber needs to be re-bricked. End cone and air tube rotted. Unlined chimney falling apart...won't be me.EBEBRATT-Ed said:New plate on the front, new flue pipe and liner and it will run.
But should be replaced
If they keep calling people someone will get it running
And no outside basement entrance, 30" wide rickety steps, and 60 year old oil tank.There was an error rendering this rich post.
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The side facing the flame is nice and black/sooty.delcrossv said:The disposable aluminum pan is a nice touch. 😳
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The guy has been texting me saying there must be some way to keep it running for another 3 months. I told him I wouldn't even run it for 3 minutes. I literally walked in, took the foil pan off, showed his wife what was going on inside, put the pan back over it, and took some pictures. Told her everything that was wrong and why I'm not even touching it. Didn't touch the burner or anything else.SuperTech said:Wow. I've seen some old boilers in bad condition but nothing remotely close to the horrific condition of that one.
I don't know how that even the most clueless person would think that's OK to operate. I can hear it all now..."it was working great a few days ago...".
It's a row home. I actually recommended to her to line the chimney (no matter what they do), get rid of the tank, switch to gas.There was an error rendering this rich post.
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Yikes!!
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What? Some JB Weld and a new roaster pan from the Dollar store and you're good as new. Did you ask them if they had any CO detectors?
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I'm sure I'm dating myself but I have this picture in my mind of Karnak holding the envelope to his forehead and saying "They'll be pushing the reset button until spring"Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
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Does the primary control look relatively new because they've been pushing the reset button daily for 30 years?1
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Wow! Wow, if @STEVEusaPA recommended they switch to GAS it had got to be bad!
We're you able to find a listing on the aluminum pan? I think it was just too covered in soot and you couldn't read it. Yup....Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!3 -
A case like that you may want to put in call. email/ letter to the local AHJ to tell them what you found and what you did (didnt do)... CYA on something like that.
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I've seen some poorly serviced equipment in my years. Dry base oil fired boilers, especially with flame coming out the back due to failed chamber, plugged flues, oil all around the burner spewing soot all over in a multifamily absentee landlord building.
Hey, when they have a service contract to keep it running, you get what you get.
I've condemned many. These days in NH, a Tech is not allowed to make the unit inoperable and leave the site. Just shut it off at the switch, Red Tag it, notify the customer and try to have them sign the work order. Good luck.
I always call the local Fire Department and let them know the facts.1 -
That place is the perfect candidate for electrification. A few hundred watt light bulbs in there, and you can remove the flue altogether, maybe some tin foil for some good reflective radiant barrier and call it a day. You should bring a few hundred orange extension cords with you. Make sure they are the 100 footers and that you only need to go 10 feet with them....Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!2
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I don't know, a little paint, a few flowers, a couple of throw pillows...2 -
All that stuff on top of the boiler including the baseball are keeping the top from blowing off.
I really was hoping it still had a stack switch
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It still has the hole in the flue pipe and the clamp attached.EBEBRATT-Ed said:All that stuff on top of the boiler including the baseball are keeping the top from blowing off.
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Where they elderly? Or, on a tight budget? If so, I feel some empathy for them. My parents furnace looked worse than that before we replaced it. We went from 10 tanks of oil per winter to 2. We smack ourselves for not doing more for them when they were living. Maybe what I am feeling is guilt.1
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I find myself constantly keeping the old equipment going for the elderly customers who are on a tight budget. I always do everything I can for them but what Steve encountered I wouldn't have touched either. I wouldn't have touched it unless I could make everything right, that much work is beyond what I can take care of in one service call.SlamDunk said:Where they elderly? Or, on a tight budget? If so, I feel some empathy for them. My parents furnace looked worse than that before we replaced it. We went from 10 tanks of oil per winter to 2. We smack ourselves for not doing more for them when they were living. Maybe what I am feeling is guilt.
Don't feel guilty about what you could've done for your parents. It's easy to look back and think you could have done more. It's natural to feel this way because you miss them.
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Did the customer ask, "Is it still under warranty?"
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May be a stupid question but how does some thing like this get to be in such bad shape? What made the hole in the bottom of the boiler? I wouldn't spend 5 minutes in that house.0
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