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SomeTradesJack
SomeTradesJack Member Posts: 17
in THE MAIN WALL
"The right tool for the right job," my dad always said. Instant BTU increase with removal of plywood boxes. All manner of radiators in this old place.
Before:

After, with high-tech humidifier:


Before:

After (obviously a replacement, but why piped in this manner?):

Before:

After--custom support revealed:

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  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,012
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    Love the wallpaper.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    EdTheHeaterMan
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,867
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    The last one needs a cabinet to get the full capacity.

    OOPs

    I agree with Alan. Nice WP

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    mattmia2
  • SomeTradesJack
    SomeTradesJack Member Posts: 17
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    Yeah, the wallpaper's nice, but the previous owner PAINTED over it! And you should see the wool carpet with the jute backing, and the horsehair carpetpad. Gonna tell the wife that there are some things we're not taking back to original. Plus, gotta keep the paint can...ha!
    ethicalpaul
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,867
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    Ben Moore made some good radiator support cans back in the day

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    kcoppPC7060
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,856
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    You'll want to find a proper radiator to replace that fin-tube convector element.
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  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,160
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    EdTheHeaterMan said:

    The last one needs a cabinet to get the full capacity.

    Be a good time to scoot the outlet over before installing a new radiator (or cabinet).
  • SlamDunk
    SlamDunk Member Posts: 1,584
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    That Benjamin Moore can is from the 70's! I opened many of them. The yellow label brought back fond and hateful memories!
    ethicalpaul
  • SomeTradesJack
    SomeTradesJack Member Posts: 17
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    PC7060 said:



    Be a good time to scoot the outlet over before installing a new radiator (or cabinet).

    Yep, electrical is on the list. Note: no ground. :/
  • JimP
    JimP Member Posts: 87
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    Removing those covers is a matter of taste. Someone sure went to a lot of trouble to make them. The humidifier is neat ( unless it leaks).
  • ChicagoCooperator
    ChicagoCooperator Member Posts: 355
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    I have a receptacle that is half behind an original door casing (a closet was added during the original construction but after electrical rough in). Love the wallpaper too. I suppose the carpet and padding would be good insulation for heat and noise - if it was still there. Is that an old radiator humidifier that they just built in to the radiator cover?
  • SomeTradesJack
    SomeTradesJack Member Posts: 17
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    ChicagoCooperator said:

    Is that an old radiator humidifier that they just built in to the radiator cover?

    Actually, it slides in between the fins of the radiator itself. There are several around the old place. Out here in the West, any moisture is good.
  • JakeCK
    JakeCK Member Posts: 1,356
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    I love how they covered half an outlet. Didn't need that anyways. lol

    And if it makes you feel any better my house has wallpaper on the ceilings... That has been painted over too.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,677
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    Sometimes plain paper was used to hold cracking plaster together. Otherwise anyone that paints over wallpaper should be shot.

    Good wool carpet was far superior to synthetic carpet. Maybe not so much for the rubber pad.
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,160
    edited March 2021
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    SomeTradesJack said:
    Yep, electrical is on the list. Note: no ground. :/
    If it’s fed by armor cable I’d put a GFCI breaker in the panel for that branch (or a GFCI outlet if no breaker available) and then switch the outlets to three prong. Can’t remember the NEC section that allows it but it’s there.

    if you’ve got K&T it’s probably time for rewire.

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