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Triangle Tube Challenger domestic hot water does not maintain temp

ciro13
ciro13 Member Posts: 3
Per the title discussion, the Triangle Tube Challenger in my home does not maintain temperature of domestic hot water. When the hot water is running, like in the shower or when filling a bath, the temperature of the hot water will begin hot, then go cold, then it'll go hot again, eventually it'll go cold again. These periods hot and cold water will last between 30 seconds and several minutes. I want the temperature of the water to remain steady when I set the taps to run.

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  • Zman
    Zman Member Posts: 7,611
    How old is the system?
    Is this a new problem?
    Pictures of boiler piping is always helpful.
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
    Albert Einstein
    kcopp
  • ednelson7373
    ednelson7373 Member Posts: 8
    hello my name is Ed I am in the triangle tube tech support dept.
    please give us a call at 856 228 8881 we would glad to help you figure out the issue we are here from 8am to 5 pm Monday through Thursday and 8 to 4:30 on Friday eastern time
    thank you
    kcoppErin Holohan Haskell
  • We'd sure like to know the outcome, if you don't mind.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    kcopp
  • ciro13
    ciro13 Member Posts: 3
    Zman, Can this be a piping issue?

    System can't be older than 2015/2016 - it's been like this since we started living here in 2017.

    I'll have to see what Triangle Tube Tech Support has to say next week and I'll post an update here.
  • Is there a mixing valve on the DHW outlet. Should be - it comes with the boiler. Not saying this is the issue.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,487
    I have worked/ installed many of these.
    If you can post a picture that would help.
    Are you on a well or City water?
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,833
    Talk to mister Ed. It would be great if your name was Wilbur
    MikeAmann
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,474
    I would say the flow sensor is hanging up, but just an educated guess. Tech support will be able to figure it out though.
    Rick
  • ciro13
    ciro13 Member Posts: 3
    City water. There's a mixing valve. Thanks everyone.
  • hotwatercold
    hotwatercold Member Posts: 3
    I am having the same problem with my triangle tube combo boiler. When the hot water is running, the temperature of the hot water will begin hot, then go cold, then it'll go hot again, eventually it'll go cold again. These periods hot and cold water will last between 30 seconds and several minutes. I want the temperature of the water to remain steady when I set the taps to run.
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,487
    This could be several issues.
    excessive flow rate, a scaled heat exchanger or a bad mix valve.
    Have you changed out a shower head lately?
    How long have you been at this home?
    Is this a recent issue or a slow progression?
  • hotwatercold
    hotwatercold Member Posts: 3
    Boiler is about 8 years old. I remember that the shower head(s) have been problematic from day one. I have purchased at least a 6 different shower heads over the years under the assumption that reducing the water flow through the boiler would give the boiler a chance to the heat the water to the set temp. I’ve even modified several shower heads to further restrict flow to the point where pressure out of the head is extremely slow. I’ve tried setting the dhw temp numerous times & now in have the setting at 140 without improvement. When I turn the shower on and watch the boiler screen readout I get the following sequence-






    Clearly the boiler is only reaching 116 degrees instead of the set point of 140 degrees. The sequence shown in the pics will continue until the hot water fixture is turned off. Mixing valve is a Caleffi 521 set to max 150 degrees. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks



  • ahaile930
    ahaile930 Member Posts: 2

    what was the solution I am new here

  • ahaile930
    ahaile930 Member Posts: 2

    my triangle tubi combo is 4 years old maintained regularly I have dhw is giving me a problem hot water doesn't last to finish a 5 min shower

  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,487

    What is the model # of the boiler? Need more info…

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,816

    It will not reach DHW setpoint if the boiler is not ramping up, or the draw exceeds the capacity of the unit. Since you have changed shower heads, over the years, it sounds like you do not have enough boiler capacity.

    Also set the mix valve to 120F, it doesn't do any good to have it set higher than the dhw can reach?

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream