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Constant Banging In Parallel Flow System

New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
in Strictly Steam
Condensate isn’t returning either. I just can’t seem to put my finger on the cause...


New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
newenglandsteamworks.com

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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    I'm afraid to bite since you know more about steam than i do, do you speak in jest?
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,878
    You have to be kidding, Ryan. You've forgotten more about steam than I ever knew...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,840
    Let me guess, nobody else could figure it out. Wow, just wow.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,878
    Now that I look at it again... you're only a few days early!
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279
    I think you posted the picture upside down just to trick people.
    New England SteamWorks
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,387
    Once again- you can't fix stupid!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    SMH
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    Poor guy. His plumber told him that his steam pipes looked old (!) and should be replaced. Which he did, mains, returns, and run-outs. Cost more than a boiler install and everything pitched wrong.

    Worst part for us is he used press fitting. So we can’t just unscrew and correct. No. We have to cut and thread in place.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    Then there’s the inexplicable: Let’s do one runout in copper and pipe it in such a way that the bulkhead door can only open halfway:
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    Why would he do that? Because he could!
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    Dang. All my pipes look pretty old. I didn't know that meant they had to be replaced. Should there be a "best used by" date on them somewhere?
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    “Best Used Until They Leak”
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    edited March 2020
    But
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    But, we are making progress...
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    STEVEusaPA
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,840
    That's really sad that contractors need to steal like that to have a business. Yes that's harsh, but it's reality.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    New England SteamWorksHap_Hazzardethicalpaul
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    Not just stealing. That system was vandalized.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,840
    New England SteamWorks said:

    But, we are making progress...

    Header is too small as well isn't it?
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,526
    Yes, it’s a bit small. But the poor guy has already spent a fortune, so we are trying just to get it to work, but with minimum required specs.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    HA, HA!
  • dopey27177
    dopey27177 Member Posts: 887
    The first thing that I noticed was the steam outlet pipe has a reducing coupling on it. That's a No No'

    Can not see the near boiler piping to make a judgement call on it.

    Can not see why the return is higher than the steam main.
    If this O.K. Where does the end of the steam drip tie into? Hopefully a wet return.

    Real costly problem to fix

    Jake

    See the simplified boiler piping dwng.
    Steam: The Perfect Fluid for Heating and Some of the Problems
    by Jacob (Jake) Myron

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